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Just because a passenger car has an electric drive doesn’t automatically mean it is more environmentally friendly.
Compare your electric SUV to an electric subcompact or something the size of a Golf (with electric drive).
An SUV usually has a higher weight than a "standard" passenger car but still offers no additional usable space (trunk, etc.).
No one can reasonably compare an SUV (almost no storage space) to a (VW) van (a lot of storage space). These are completely different use cases.
(6.5 liters per 100 km (36 mpg US) when driving slowly and environmentally consciously is not really low. I hope we are talking about gasoline and not diesel, because that would be quite a lot.)

We need to slowly move away from the (USA-inspired) trend of always wanting to drive bigger cars.
Often, a smaller size is sufficient.

LostWolf schrieb:

Just because a passenger car has an electric driveline doesn’t automatically mean it’s more environmentally friendly.
Compare your electric SUV to an electric compact car or something the size of a Golf (with electric drive).
An SUV usually weighs more than a “standard” passenger car but still offers no additional usable space (trunk, etc.).
No one can reasonably compare an SUV (with almost no cargo space) to a [VW-]bus (with a lot of cargo space). These are completely different use cases.
(6.5 liters [1.7 gallons] per 100 km under environmentally conscious and slow driving is not really low. I hope we’re talking about gasoline and not diesel, because that would be a lot.)

We really need to move away from the (USA-inspired) trend of always wanting to drive bigger cars.
Often, a smaller size is just fine.

But it works very well when people drive a VW bus alone to work. Then the VW bus transports as many people as an SUV but consumes more diesel. I quickly looked it up:

“Within the city, the T6.1 Multivan consumes 8.7 liters [2.3 gallons], 7.4 liters [2.0 gallons] outside the city, and even 10.4 liters [2.7 gallons] of diesel per 100 kilometers on the highway.”

And how often do you really use the full cargo space of a VW bus? Twice a year? In total, it definitely consumes more diesel per person than an SUV.

And this whole “don’t buy an electric SUV” talk is simply nonsense. In the worst case, you say okay, then I’ll continue driving my diesel. Is that the better solution? I would still drive an SUV, and if it should be an electric SUV, currently the Skoda Enyaq iV 80 or the VW ID.4 are front runners. Switching to an electric Golf is not an option for me because at 1.90 meters (6 feet 3 inches) tall with heavy bones 🙂 I don’t want to squeeze myself into something like that.

I would rather encourage people to buy any electric car at all. Whether it’s an SUV or a compact car should be up to them.

LostWolf schrieb:

Often going one size smaller is sufficient.

LostWolf schrieb:

Calling an SUV "currently the best ecological choice in my opinion" is somewhat shortsighted.

Well, I also drive a (hybrid) SUV. However, the whole idea that these are unecological tanks that block parking spaces is complete nonsense. A GLC is not bigger than a C-Class. A Q5 is not bigger than an A4, and so on.
Cars overall are getting larger (a Polo today is about the size of a Golf 15 years ago), and similar to house construction, there are many nice features that people want for added comfort. This naturally increases weight as well.

Everyone should drive whatever they prefer. Fully electric doesn’t make sense for me yet, as I often have long-distance trips. Without long-distance driving, my GLC diesel hybrid achieves almost two-thirds electric driving. As much as possible, I charge using my own photovoltaic system—when it’s sunny, I can cover 100% of the wallbox charging power with solar energy. For me, the hybrid is already quite eco-friendly.

Ultimately, the fact remains: In an accident, you’d rather be in an SUV than in a Polo :p :p :p

Ultimately, everyone has to decide for themselves whether the negative climate impact is worth a little extra comfort, or if they prefer to show solidarity.
So, the typical question: my ego or the community.

Please take this to the car power general discussion thread, thanks 🙂