ᐅ Photovoltaic system with battery storage, with or without cloud service plan
Created on: 10 Mar 2020 21:06
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Hi everyone,
I searched a bit but didn’t find anything that fully satisfied me.
While I originally planned to install the photovoltaic system and battery storage for our new build in 4-5 years, I’ve now changed my mind. With current electricity costs at €110 and likely €130-140 for the new build, I can just take out a loan to cover €150-170 per month and install the photovoltaic system right away.
I asked the planning office to get us a quote. I also searched myself and received one today.
29x JA Solar JAM60S10-340/MR
or
30x Solarwatt Eco 120M Photovoltaic Modules 330 Heat Pump
and Senec . IES Home V3 duo Lithium 5kWh (5.5 kilowatt-hour) storage capacity.
So far, so good, but there is a line item for signing a cloud contract, and the cost-benefit analysis includes costs and savings related to the cloud. However, I don’t fully understand what the cloud service actually provides for my money or what it means.
I assume it’s not only SENEC offering a cloud service but others as well, and I’m not quite sure what exactly I get from it. Would I no longer feed electricity directly into the grid, and would I lose feed-in compensation for the surplus energy?
Do I need the cloud or not? If I do need it, which provider should I choose?
I searched a bit but didn’t find anything that fully satisfied me.
While I originally planned to install the photovoltaic system and battery storage for our new build in 4-5 years, I’ve now changed my mind. With current electricity costs at €110 and likely €130-140 for the new build, I can just take out a loan to cover €150-170 per month and install the photovoltaic system right away.
I asked the planning office to get us a quote. I also searched myself and received one today.
29x JA Solar JAM60S10-340/MR
or
30x Solarwatt Eco 120M Photovoltaic Modules 330 Heat Pump
and Senec . IES Home V3 duo Lithium 5kWh (5.5 kilowatt-hour) storage capacity.
So far, so good, but there is a line item for signing a cloud contract, and the cost-benefit analysis includes costs and savings related to the cloud. However, I don’t fully understand what the cloud service actually provides for my money or what it means.
I assume it’s not only SENEC offering a cloud service but others as well, and I’m not quite sure what exactly I get from it. Would I no longer feed electricity directly into the grid, and would I lose feed-in compensation for the surplus energy?
Do I need the cloud or not? If I do need it, which provider should I choose?
Thank you for the responses.
We are building an energy-efficient house, but not a 40(+) standard. However, we are still receiving the new repayment bonus of 15% instead of 5%.
My idea was to become more independent from the electricity provider and do something good for the environment. I expected it might not be economically viable, but I hadn’t imagined it would be this unfavorable.
In that case, photovoltaic systems with grid feed-in and switching to a 100% green electricity tariff might make more sense.
We are building an energy-efficient house, but not a 40(+) standard. However, we are still receiving the new repayment bonus of 15% instead of 5%.
My idea was to become more independent from the electricity provider and do something good for the environment. I expected it might not be economically viable, but I hadn’t imagined it would be this unfavorable.
In that case, photovoltaic systems with grid feed-in and switching to a 100% green electricity tariff might make more sense.
One can only hope that the system can be put into operation before the deadline is reached. The fact remains the same for now.
Maybe the gentlemen will come to an agreement tomorrow, but we all know how these things go.
Absolutely frustrating. I had a discussion with our architect yesterday; she wants to hire the photovoltaic installer, but we are totally unsure about how to proceed.
The plan now is to ask the installer to help us prepare the construction accordingly and possibly install the system later ourselves.
Maybe the gentlemen will come to an agreement tomorrow, but we all know how these things go.
Absolutely frustrating. I had a discussion with our architect yesterday; she wants to hire the photovoltaic installer, but we are totally unsure about how to proceed.
The plan now is to ask the installer to help us prepare the construction accordingly and possibly install the system later ourselves.
Tarnari schrieb:
One can only hope that your system can be commissioned before the deadline. The fact is, it is still uncertain.
Maybe the gentlemen will come to an agreement tomorrow, but we all know how that goes.
Absolutely frustrating. I had a discussion yesterday with our architect; she wants to hire the photovoltaic installer, and we are completely unsure how to proceed.
The plan now is to ask the installer to help us prepare the construction accordingly and possibly install the system later ourselves. We coordinated this with the construction company. The installation was done before drywall, after the roofers. The solar technician was still able to use the scaffolding and ran the power cable into the main cable bundle, which was then covered and boxed in by the drywall installer. Very practical for everyone.
We will proceed as follows:
We are now commissioning the photovoltaic installer. He can only start installing from September anyway, as he is fully booked until then. The contract will include an exit clause that allows us to withdraw if the feed-in tariff is no longer permitted by the time of installation.
This way, we do not take any risk.
We are now commissioning the photovoltaic installer. He can only start installing from September anyway, as he is fully booked until then. The contract will include an exit clause that allows us to withdraw if the feed-in tariff is no longer permitted by the time of installation.
This way, we do not take any risk.
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hampshire28 Mar 2020 20:22With some of these contracts, you get the impression that "Cloud" should be spelled phonetically in German as "klaut"...
The basic idea is great.
The basic idea is great.
Interesting topic: I currently have an offer for an 8.1 kWp photovoltaic system with a 9.6 kWh (kilowatt-hour) battery storage.
The battery storage is supposed to cost around 7,100 EUR. Subsidy in Bavaria through the 10,000 Houses Program is about 1,000 EUR.
So, is it not worthwhile even with this subsidy? Would it be better to install a 9.9 kWp photovoltaic system on the roof without battery storage?
Is it actually worth investing in a standalone photovoltaic system, considering that feed-in tariffs are no longer as high?
Additionally, I am possibly planning to install an air source heat pump as a new heating system or a gas hybrid with an air source heat pump.
Possibly also a hybrid electric vehicle at some point.
What would be a good offer for a standalone 9.9 kWp photovoltaic system in the Munich area? Which company would you recommend?
Thanks for the advice.
The battery storage is supposed to cost around 7,100 EUR. Subsidy in Bavaria through the 10,000 Houses Program is about 1,000 EUR.
So, is it not worthwhile even with this subsidy? Would it be better to install a 9.9 kWp photovoltaic system on the roof without battery storage?
Is it actually worth investing in a standalone photovoltaic system, considering that feed-in tariffs are no longer as high?
Additionally, I am possibly planning to install an air source heat pump as a new heating system or a gas hybrid with an air source heat pump.
Possibly also a hybrid electric vehicle at some point.
What would be a good offer for a standalone 9.9 kWp photovoltaic system in the Munich area? Which company would you recommend?
Thanks for the advice.
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