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Has anyone here already looked into the installation options for dishwasher fronts in the new Metod kitchen system? I have spent some time researching this topic and would like to share my current findings with you:
As I understand it, IKEA now offers the option in Metod to have the dishwasher fronts divided, so they appear as if the dishwasher has multiple drawers. Alternatively, you can install a continuous door as before. This can also be selected in the online planner, which will then display the desired front layout.
Additionally, I found out that Metod requires a special mechanism where the dishwasher fronts slide along rails attached to the dishwasher door. I think it works similarly to the sliding doors on refrigerators.
What isn’t clear to me yet is whether this special sliding mechanism is mandatory with Metod, or if you can still mount the front fixed directly to the dishwasher door as before. Does this have something to do with the different plinth height between Metod and Faktum?
If you want to attach multiple partial fronts to the dishwasher door, you need the Vaglig (20250663) product. This consists of two rails that hold the partial fronts together. But as far as I understand, this does not include the sliding mechanism itself.
For the sliding mechanism, you then need either Resonlig (50248348) or Behjälplig (50242426). The difference between these two seems to be that they fit different dishwasher models (Resonlig for Skinande, Rengöra, and LAGAN; Behjälplig for Hjälpsam). However, I have not yet figured out which one is needed for a non-IKEA dishwasher.
There is also Ersättare (00250664), which appears to be an installation solution for semi-integrated dishwashers. Since IKEA does not offer semi-integrated appliances in their range, Ersättare is probably designed specifically for non-IKEA models that you want to install in Metod. I have also looked at the installation instructions for Ersättare, but some things are still unclear to me:
As I understand it, the lower part of the front must be a partial front with a height of 20cm (8 inches), which is hinged in such a way that it flips open when the dishwasher door is opened. Does this mean that a continuous front is not possible with semi-integrated dishwashers???
Additionally, the instructions state that the upper partial front, also 20cm (8 inches) high, must be cut to size depending on the dishwasher’s trim height. I assume this would only apply to fronts without embossed patterns, because if, for example, I cut a Lidingö front (which has an embossed pattern) in the middle at 20cm (8 inches), I would be cutting through the design?
Since I want to install an existing dishwasher with a semi-integrated front in my new Metod kitchen with Lidingö/Bodbyn fronts, I am currently puzzled about how the installation should actually look.
Since Metod will be available in Austria from April 1st, I will definitely ask IKEA then.
Does anyone already know the answers to my questions?
Best regards
Sektionschef
Has anyone here already looked into the installation options for dishwasher fronts in the new Metod kitchen system? I have spent some time researching this topic and would like to share my current findings with you:
As I understand it, IKEA now offers the option in Metod to have the dishwasher fronts divided, so they appear as if the dishwasher has multiple drawers. Alternatively, you can install a continuous door as before. This can also be selected in the online planner, which will then display the desired front layout.
Additionally, I found out that Metod requires a special mechanism where the dishwasher fronts slide along rails attached to the dishwasher door. I think it works similarly to the sliding doors on refrigerators.
What isn’t clear to me yet is whether this special sliding mechanism is mandatory with Metod, or if you can still mount the front fixed directly to the dishwasher door as before. Does this have something to do with the different plinth height between Metod and Faktum?
If you want to attach multiple partial fronts to the dishwasher door, you need the Vaglig (20250663) product. This consists of two rails that hold the partial fronts together. But as far as I understand, this does not include the sliding mechanism itself.
For the sliding mechanism, you then need either Resonlig (50248348) or Behjälplig (50242426). The difference between these two seems to be that they fit different dishwasher models (Resonlig for Skinande, Rengöra, and LAGAN; Behjälplig for Hjälpsam). However, I have not yet figured out which one is needed for a non-IKEA dishwasher.
There is also Ersättare (00250664), which appears to be an installation solution for semi-integrated dishwashers. Since IKEA does not offer semi-integrated appliances in their range, Ersättare is probably designed specifically for non-IKEA models that you want to install in Metod. I have also looked at the installation instructions for Ersättare, but some things are still unclear to me:
As I understand it, the lower part of the front must be a partial front with a height of 20cm (8 inches), which is hinged in such a way that it flips open when the dishwasher door is opened. Does this mean that a continuous front is not possible with semi-integrated dishwashers???
Additionally, the instructions state that the upper partial front, also 20cm (8 inches) high, must be cut to size depending on the dishwasher’s trim height. I assume this would only apply to fronts without embossed patterns, because if, for example, I cut a Lidingö front (which has an embossed pattern) in the middle at 20cm (8 inches), I would be cutting through the design?
Since I want to install an existing dishwasher with a semi-integrated front in my new Metod kitchen with Lidingö/Bodbyn fronts, I am currently puzzled about how the installation should actually look.
Since Metod will be available in Austria from April 1st, I will definitely ask IKEA then.
Does anyone already know the answers to my questions?
Best regards
Sektionschef
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Stecky200021 Sep 2014 19:10Honestly, I don’t quite understand what you mean.
I have added a new picture to the album showing the panel I removed.
You can see the rest of the dishwasher door and the entire lower section made of plastic with the mentioned metal part.
Even if removing this metal part would help, which in my opinion it doesn’t because the panel would have to fold forward, the plastic part from the replacement does not fit on the door as it hits the door itself.
The solution could be a shorter plastic part like that, but IKEA doesn’t offer one.
I have added a new picture to the album showing the panel I removed.
You can see the rest of the dishwasher door and the entire lower section made of plastic with the mentioned metal part.
Even if removing this metal part would help, which in my opinion it doesn’t because the panel would have to fold forward, the plastic part from the replacement does not fit on the door as it hits the door itself.
The solution could be a shorter plastic part like that, but IKEA doesn’t offer one.
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IKEA-Experte21 Sep 2014 22:08The photo makes it clearer. Does the machine close flush with the countertop at the top? If it does, I can’t think of a solution right now.
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Stecky200023 Sep 2014 12:26Hello IKEA expert, it's a pity you don’t have a solution......
.....but I have one.
In theory....
I will return the Ersättare and get an 80 x 60 cm (31.5 x 23.6 inches) door/front from IKEA.
This will be attached using the screws from the inner part of the dishwasher, just like the Ersättare, but without metal rails in between and without divider slots (no drawer look).
Then I will secure a board firmly between the two cabinets on the right and left side of the dishwasher using two 45° brackets.
The problem I encountered in my tests was that with a gap of only 2 - 4 mm (0.08 - 0.16 inches), the board hits the outer corners of the dishwasher door at the bottom, where it is fixed.
I solved this in my test by cutting the bottom board across its entire width at a 45° angle, sloping inward on the top edge.
The result is a complete 60 x 60 cm (23.6 x 23.6 inches) front on the dishwasher, with about an 8 cm (3.1 inches) board underneath, and only a very fine gap like the original.
In theory, I attached a 15 cm (5.9 inches) board to the door with Pattafix and placed a board underneath.
There was interference!
Then I cut the lower board at a 45° angle and placed it back under with a minimal gap.
And look, the door slides past smoothly.
Now I just have to check if the division of 60 to 8 cm (23.6 to 3.1 inches) works, or if with 60 cm (23.6 inches) the board hits the underside of the dishwasher at full door opening.
If so, I might need to do something like 55 to 13 cm (21.7 to 5.1 inches).
This can be cut down from an 80 cm (31.5 inches) door.
As soon as I have it done, I will post again and share pictures.
It seems that several people have this problem, so maybe someone wants to build it or have it built.
For now, I’m sharing my test with two boards...
.....but I have one.
In theory....
I will return the Ersättare and get an 80 x 60 cm (31.5 x 23.6 inches) door/front from IKEA.
This will be attached using the screws from the inner part of the dishwasher, just like the Ersättare, but without metal rails in between and without divider slots (no drawer look).
Then I will secure a board firmly between the two cabinets on the right and left side of the dishwasher using two 45° brackets.
The problem I encountered in my tests was that with a gap of only 2 - 4 mm (0.08 - 0.16 inches), the board hits the outer corners of the dishwasher door at the bottom, where it is fixed.
I solved this in my test by cutting the bottom board across its entire width at a 45° angle, sloping inward on the top edge.
The result is a complete 60 x 60 cm (23.6 x 23.6 inches) front on the dishwasher, with about an 8 cm (3.1 inches) board underneath, and only a very fine gap like the original.
In theory, I attached a 15 cm (5.9 inches) board to the door with Pattafix and placed a board underneath.
There was interference!
Then I cut the lower board at a 45° angle and placed it back under with a minimal gap.
And look, the door slides past smoothly.
Now I just have to check if the division of 60 to 8 cm (23.6 to 3.1 inches) works, or if with 60 cm (23.6 inches) the board hits the underside of the dishwasher at full door opening.
If so, I might need to do something like 55 to 13 cm (21.7 to 5.1 inches).
This can be cut down from an 80 cm (31.5 inches) door.
As soon as I have it done, I will post again and share pictures.
It seems that several people have this problem, so maybe someone wants to build it or have it built.
For now, I’m sharing my test with two boards...
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IKEA-Experte28 Sep 2014 19:55Great, I’m looking forward to seeing the result.
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IKEA-Experte10 Oct 2014 17:18Unfortunately, I can't share personal experience, but if it doesn't work, you'll have to use Behjälplig after all. That way, the outcome won’t be too bad.
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