Hello
Has anyone here already looked into the installation options for dishwasher fronts in the new Metod kitchen system? I have spent some time researching this topic and would like to share my current findings with you:
As I understand it, IKEA now offers the option in Metod to have the dishwasher fronts divided, so they appear as if the dishwasher has multiple drawers. Alternatively, you can install a continuous door as before. This can also be selected in the online planner, which will then display the desired front layout.
Additionally, I found out that Metod requires a special mechanism where the dishwasher fronts slide along rails attached to the dishwasher door. I think it works similarly to the sliding doors on refrigerators.
What isn’t clear to me yet is whether this special sliding mechanism is mandatory with Metod, or if you can still mount the front fixed directly to the dishwasher door as before. Does this have something to do with the different plinth height between Metod and Faktum?
If you want to attach multiple partial fronts to the dishwasher door, you need the Vaglig (20250663) product. This consists of two rails that hold the partial fronts together. But as far as I understand, this does not include the sliding mechanism itself.
For the sliding mechanism, you then need either Resonlig (50248348) or Behjälplig (50242426). The difference between these two seems to be that they fit different dishwasher models (Resonlig for Skinande, Rengöra, and LAGAN; Behjälplig for Hjälpsam). However, I have not yet figured out which one is needed for a non-IKEA dishwasher.
There is also Ersättare (00250664), which appears to be an installation solution for semi-integrated dishwashers. Since IKEA does not offer semi-integrated appliances in their range, Ersättare is probably designed specifically for non-IKEA models that you want to install in Metod. I have also looked at the installation instructions for Ersättare, but some things are still unclear to me:
As I understand it, the lower part of the front must be a partial front with a height of 20cm (8 inches), which is hinged in such a way that it flips open when the dishwasher door is opened. Does this mean that a continuous front is not possible with semi-integrated dishwashers???
Additionally, the instructions state that the upper partial front, also 20cm (8 inches) high, must be cut to size depending on the dishwasher’s trim height. I assume this would only apply to fronts without embossed patterns, because if, for example, I cut a Lidingö front (which has an embossed pattern) in the middle at 20cm (8 inches), I would be cutting through the design?
Since I want to install an existing dishwasher with a semi-integrated front in my new Metod kitchen with Lidingö/Bodbyn fronts, I am currently puzzled about how the installation should actually look.
Since Metod will be available in Austria from April 1st, I will definitely ask IKEA then.
Does anyone already know the answers to my questions?
Best regards
Sektionschef
Has anyone here already looked into the installation options for dishwasher fronts in the new Metod kitchen system? I have spent some time researching this topic and would like to share my current findings with you:
As I understand it, IKEA now offers the option in Metod to have the dishwasher fronts divided, so they appear as if the dishwasher has multiple drawers. Alternatively, you can install a continuous door as before. This can also be selected in the online planner, which will then display the desired front layout.
Additionally, I found out that Metod requires a special mechanism where the dishwasher fronts slide along rails attached to the dishwasher door. I think it works similarly to the sliding doors on refrigerators.
What isn’t clear to me yet is whether this special sliding mechanism is mandatory with Metod, or if you can still mount the front fixed directly to the dishwasher door as before. Does this have something to do with the different plinth height between Metod and Faktum?
If you want to attach multiple partial fronts to the dishwasher door, you need the Vaglig (20250663) product. This consists of two rails that hold the partial fronts together. But as far as I understand, this does not include the sliding mechanism itself.
For the sliding mechanism, you then need either Resonlig (50248348) or Behjälplig (50242426). The difference between these two seems to be that they fit different dishwasher models (Resonlig for Skinande, Rengöra, and LAGAN; Behjälplig for Hjälpsam). However, I have not yet figured out which one is needed for a non-IKEA dishwasher.
There is also Ersättare (00250664), which appears to be an installation solution for semi-integrated dishwashers. Since IKEA does not offer semi-integrated appliances in their range, Ersättare is probably designed specifically for non-IKEA models that you want to install in Metod. I have also looked at the installation instructions for Ersättare, but some things are still unclear to me:
As I understand it, the lower part of the front must be a partial front with a height of 20cm (8 inches), which is hinged in such a way that it flips open when the dishwasher door is opened. Does this mean that a continuous front is not possible with semi-integrated dishwashers???
Additionally, the instructions state that the upper partial front, also 20cm (8 inches) high, must be cut to size depending on the dishwasher’s trim height. I assume this would only apply to fronts without embossed patterns, because if, for example, I cut a Lidingö front (which has an embossed pattern) in the middle at 20cm (8 inches), I would be cutting through the design?
Since I want to install an existing dishwasher with a semi-integrated front in my new Metod kitchen with Lidingö/Bodbyn fronts, I am currently puzzled about how the installation should actually look.
Since Metod will be available in Austria from April 1st, I will definitely ask IKEA then.
Does anyone already know the answers to my questions?
Best regards
Sektionschef
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IKEA-Experte6 Nov 2014 19:19Only this can be said:
For a unit with a variable hinge, fronts up to 80cm (31.5 inches) high will fit.
There is a report about the successful installation of a BSH XXL appliance using the Stefan method and the use of Behjälplig.
For a BSH appliance with standard height, it depends on trying the Stefan method; if that doesn’t work, Behjälplig should be effective.
When using Behjälplig, the door is fixed at the bottom so that it can only rotate around one axis there. It is mounted on the door via two gliders that slide along a rail attached to the door.
For a unit with a variable hinge, fronts up to 80cm (31.5 inches) high will fit.
There is a report about the successful installation of a BSH XXL appliance using the Stefan method and the use of Behjälplig.
For a BSH appliance with standard height, it depends on trying the Stefan method; if that doesn’t work, Behjälplig should be effective.
When using Behjälplig, the door is fixed at the bottom so that it can only rotate around one axis there. It is mounted on the door via two gliders that slide along a rail attached to the door.
I have now measured several BSH dishwashers: the maximum allowed overhang of the front panel BELOW the dishwasher door is 80mm (3 inches). Actually, more would be possible, but then the panel would hit this "return cable," which seems to be responsible for the door’s upright movement.
With an 80mm (3 inches) overhang, it might be necessary to slightly bevel the front panel on the INSIDE where the cables are located.
Unfortunately, I couldn’t test how this works with an existing toe kick due to the lack of one – but it shouldn’t be a problem either.
With an 80mm (3 inches) overhang, it might be necessary to slightly bevel the front panel on the INSIDE where the cables are located.
Unfortunately, I couldn’t test how this works with an existing toe kick due to the lack of one – but it shouldn’t be a problem either.
Hello everyone,
this week I ordered my Bodbyn kitchen, but without the electrical appliances.
Now I still need a dishwasher and an oven.
I didn’t want a dishwasher from Ikea because some acquaintances had bad experiences with them.
The salesperson pointed out that other brands rarely fit well with the fronts.
We want a three-piece front to maintain the look.
Do you happen to know any brand appliances like Siemens, Bosch, or Neff that can be installed without issues?
60 cm (24 inches) wide and fully integrated with an A rating.
I noticed there are two types of hinges: one where the front detaches at the bottom and another where the front stays attached (which I think looks better).
Thank you very much for your information!
Regards,
lepole
this week I ordered my Bodbyn kitchen, but without the electrical appliances.
Now I still need a dishwasher and an oven.
I didn’t want a dishwasher from Ikea because some acquaintances had bad experiences with them.
The salesperson pointed out that other brands rarely fit well with the fronts.
We want a three-piece front to maintain the look.
Do you happen to know any brand appliances like Siemens, Bosch, or Neff that can be installed without issues?
60 cm (24 inches) wide and fully integrated with an A rating.
I noticed there are two types of hinges: one where the front detaches at the bottom and another where the front stays attached (which I think looks better).
Thank you very much for your information!
Regards,
lepole
I
IKEA-Experte13 Nov 2014 13:57Siemens SX878D04PE: Thanks to the variable hinge, there are no issues with the front height of 80cm (31.5 inches) and it has an A rating.
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