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Has anyone here already looked into the installation options for dishwasher fronts in the new Metod kitchen system? I have spent some time researching this topic and would like to share my current findings with you:
As I understand it, IKEA now offers the option in Metod to have the dishwasher fronts divided, so they appear as if the dishwasher has multiple drawers. Alternatively, you can install a continuous door as before. This can also be selected in the online planner, which will then display the desired front layout.
Additionally, I found out that Metod requires a special mechanism where the dishwasher fronts slide along rails attached to the dishwasher door. I think it works similarly to the sliding doors on refrigerators.
What isn’t clear to me yet is whether this special sliding mechanism is mandatory with Metod, or if you can still mount the front fixed directly to the dishwasher door as before. Does this have something to do with the different plinth height between Metod and Faktum?
If you want to attach multiple partial fronts to the dishwasher door, you need the Vaglig (20250663) product. This consists of two rails that hold the partial fronts together. But as far as I understand, this does not include the sliding mechanism itself.
For the sliding mechanism, you then need either Resonlig (50248348) or Behjälplig (50242426). The difference between these two seems to be that they fit different dishwasher models (Resonlig for Skinande, Rengöra, and LAGAN; Behjälplig for Hjälpsam). However, I have not yet figured out which one is needed for a non-IKEA dishwasher.
There is also Ersättare (00250664), which appears to be an installation solution for semi-integrated dishwashers. Since IKEA does not offer semi-integrated appliances in their range, Ersättare is probably designed specifically for non-IKEA models that you want to install in Metod. I have also looked at the installation instructions for Ersättare, but some things are still unclear to me:
As I understand it, the lower part of the front must be a partial front with a height of 20cm (8 inches), which is hinged in such a way that it flips open when the dishwasher door is opened. Does this mean that a continuous front is not possible with semi-integrated dishwashers???
Additionally, the instructions state that the upper partial front, also 20cm (8 inches) high, must be cut to size depending on the dishwasher’s trim height. I assume this would only apply to fronts without embossed patterns, because if, for example, I cut a Lidingö front (which has an embossed pattern) in the middle at 20cm (8 inches), I would be cutting through the design?
Since I want to install an existing dishwasher with a semi-integrated front in my new Metod kitchen with Lidingö/Bodbyn fronts, I am currently puzzled about how the installation should actually look.
Since Metod will be available in Austria from April 1st, I will definitely ask IKEA then.
Does anyone already know the answers to my questions?
Best regards
Sektionschef
Has anyone here already looked into the installation options for dishwasher fronts in the new Metod kitchen system? I have spent some time researching this topic and would like to share my current findings with you:
As I understand it, IKEA now offers the option in Metod to have the dishwasher fronts divided, so they appear as if the dishwasher has multiple drawers. Alternatively, you can install a continuous door as before. This can also be selected in the online planner, which will then display the desired front layout.
Additionally, I found out that Metod requires a special mechanism where the dishwasher fronts slide along rails attached to the dishwasher door. I think it works similarly to the sliding doors on refrigerators.
What isn’t clear to me yet is whether this special sliding mechanism is mandatory with Metod, or if you can still mount the front fixed directly to the dishwasher door as before. Does this have something to do with the different plinth height between Metod and Faktum?
If you want to attach multiple partial fronts to the dishwasher door, you need the Vaglig (20250663) product. This consists of two rails that hold the partial fronts together. But as far as I understand, this does not include the sliding mechanism itself.
For the sliding mechanism, you then need either Resonlig (50248348) or Behjälplig (50242426). The difference between these two seems to be that they fit different dishwasher models (Resonlig for Skinande, Rengöra, and LAGAN; Behjälplig for Hjälpsam). However, I have not yet figured out which one is needed for a non-IKEA dishwasher.
There is also Ersättare (00250664), which appears to be an installation solution for semi-integrated dishwashers. Since IKEA does not offer semi-integrated appliances in their range, Ersättare is probably designed specifically for non-IKEA models that you want to install in Metod. I have also looked at the installation instructions for Ersättare, but some things are still unclear to me:
As I understand it, the lower part of the front must be a partial front with a height of 20cm (8 inches), which is hinged in such a way that it flips open when the dishwasher door is opened. Does this mean that a continuous front is not possible with semi-integrated dishwashers???
Additionally, the instructions state that the upper partial front, also 20cm (8 inches) high, must be cut to size depending on the dishwasher’s trim height. I assume this would only apply to fronts without embossed patterns, because if, for example, I cut a Lidingö front (which has an embossed pattern) in the middle at 20cm (8 inches), I would be cutting through the design?
Since I want to install an existing dishwasher with a semi-integrated front in my new Metod kitchen with Lidingö/Bodbyn fronts, I am currently puzzled about how the installation should actually look.
Since Metod will be available in Austria from April 1st, I will definitely ask IKEA then.
Does anyone already know the answers to my questions?
Best regards
Sektionschef
Today, I installed a Siemens XXL dishwasher using "Stefan’s method." It works perfectly and without any fuss! The maximum front panel height of the dishwasher is actually 775mm (30.5 inches). When the dishwasher feet are fully lowered, you can mount the front panel so that it protrudes about 25mm (1 inch) at the top, which also works with an 80cm (31.5 inches) wide front panel. The small overhang is not bothersome. To secure it in place, it’s best to use two old shelves or slats. In my case, there was about 3cm (1.2 inches) of space underneath.
Best regards!
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RoiDanton19 Oct 2014 00:46Hello,
just to double-check after reading this thread: I have a Bosch SMV68M90EU (Bosch fully integrated standard size). Can I fit a standard 80cm (31.5 inches) Metod front onto this machine using Behjälplig? Many thanks for your help.
Best regards
Roi
just to double-check after reading this thread: I have a Bosch SMV68M90EU (Bosch fully integrated standard size). Can I fit a standard 80cm (31.5 inches) Metod front onto this machine using Behjälplig? Many thanks for your help.
Best regards
Roi
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IKEA-Experte19 Oct 2014 10:51YES, or without, following the Stefan method with an 8cm (3 inch) overhang.
Hello!
A completely different approach: what’s the downside of installing a standard built-in dishwasher of regular size into the niche and attaching the door panel directly to the dishwasher door, but so that the dishwasher sits as low as possible rather than raised? The front panel would then protrude quite a bit above the control panel at the top, but that should be manageable. At the bottom, the door panel shouldn’t stick out so much that the door can’t open properly, right?
Best regards,
MICHAEL
A completely different approach: what’s the downside of installing a standard built-in dishwasher of regular size into the niche and attaching the door panel directly to the dishwasher door, but so that the dishwasher sits as low as possible rather than raised? The front panel would then protrude quite a bit above the control panel at the top, but that should be manageable. At the bottom, the door panel shouldn’t stick out so much that the door can’t open properly, right?
Best regards,
MICHAEL
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IKEA-Experte19 Oct 2014 11:30Hello, there is nothing against it. This is what I have called the Stefan method because it was first described by someone named Stefan here.
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IKEA-Experte19 Oct 2014 12:07Now I just thought of something that might speak against it. The successful implementation of this method has already been described here, so it would be great if someone could explain why it actually works.
My concern: If the maximum front height according to the manufacturer is 777 mm (31 inches), then I have to install the machine 25 mm (1 inch) lower and let the front overlap by 25 mm (1 inch). This means there will be a 25 mm (1 inch) gap between the dishwasher and the countertop, which I can fill with a board. This reduces the niche height from 880 mm (35 inches) to 855 mm (34 inches). However, the manufacturer specifies a minimum niche height of 865 mm (34 inches). That would mean the dishwasher cannot be lowered enough to mount the door with sufficient overlap.
So why does it work according to the report anyway??
My concern: If the maximum front height according to the manufacturer is 777 mm (31 inches), then I have to install the machine 25 mm (1 inch) lower and let the front overlap by 25 mm (1 inch). This means there will be a 25 mm (1 inch) gap between the dishwasher and the countertop, which I can fill with a board. This reduces the niche height from 880 mm (35 inches) to 855 mm (34 inches). However, the manufacturer specifies a minimum niche height of 865 mm (34 inches). That would mean the dishwasher cannot be lowered enough to mount the door with sufficient overlap.
So why does it work according to the report anyway??
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