Hello
Has anyone here already looked into the installation options for dishwasher fronts in the new Metod kitchen system? I have spent some time researching this topic and would like to share my current findings with you:
As I understand it, IKEA now offers the option in Metod to have the dishwasher fronts divided, so they appear as if the dishwasher has multiple drawers. Alternatively, you can install a continuous door as before. This can also be selected in the online planner, which will then display the desired front layout.
Additionally, I found out that Metod requires a special mechanism where the dishwasher fronts slide along rails attached to the dishwasher door. I think it works similarly to the sliding doors on refrigerators.
What isn’t clear to me yet is whether this special sliding mechanism is mandatory with Metod, or if you can still mount the front fixed directly to the dishwasher door as before. Does this have something to do with the different plinth height between Metod and Faktum?
If you want to attach multiple partial fronts to the dishwasher door, you need the Vaglig (20250663) product. This consists of two rails that hold the partial fronts together. But as far as I understand, this does not include the sliding mechanism itself.
For the sliding mechanism, you then need either Resonlig (50248348) or Behjälplig (50242426). The difference between these two seems to be that they fit different dishwasher models (Resonlig for Skinande, Rengöra, and LAGAN; Behjälplig for Hjälpsam). However, I have not yet figured out which one is needed for a non-IKEA dishwasher.
There is also Ersättare (00250664), which appears to be an installation solution for semi-integrated dishwashers. Since IKEA does not offer semi-integrated appliances in their range, Ersättare is probably designed specifically for non-IKEA models that you want to install in Metod. I have also looked at the installation instructions for Ersättare, but some things are still unclear to me:
As I understand it, the lower part of the front must be a partial front with a height of 20cm (8 inches), which is hinged in such a way that it flips open when the dishwasher door is opened. Does this mean that a continuous front is not possible with semi-integrated dishwashers???
Additionally, the instructions state that the upper partial front, also 20cm (8 inches) high, must be cut to size depending on the dishwasher’s trim height. I assume this would only apply to fronts without embossed patterns, because if, for example, I cut a Lidingö front (which has an embossed pattern) in the middle at 20cm (8 inches), I would be cutting through the design?
Since I want to install an existing dishwasher with a semi-integrated front in my new Metod kitchen with Lidingö/Bodbyn fronts, I am currently puzzled about how the installation should actually look.
Since Metod will be available in Austria from April 1st, I will definitely ask IKEA then.
Does anyone already know the answers to my questions?
Best regards
Sektionschef
Has anyone here already looked into the installation options for dishwasher fronts in the new Metod kitchen system? I have spent some time researching this topic and would like to share my current findings with you:
As I understand it, IKEA now offers the option in Metod to have the dishwasher fronts divided, so they appear as if the dishwasher has multiple drawers. Alternatively, you can install a continuous door as before. This can also be selected in the online planner, which will then display the desired front layout.
Additionally, I found out that Metod requires a special mechanism where the dishwasher fronts slide along rails attached to the dishwasher door. I think it works similarly to the sliding doors on refrigerators.
What isn’t clear to me yet is whether this special sliding mechanism is mandatory with Metod, or if you can still mount the front fixed directly to the dishwasher door as before. Does this have something to do with the different plinth height between Metod and Faktum?
If you want to attach multiple partial fronts to the dishwasher door, you need the Vaglig (20250663) product. This consists of two rails that hold the partial fronts together. But as far as I understand, this does not include the sliding mechanism itself.
For the sliding mechanism, you then need either Resonlig (50248348) or Behjälplig (50242426). The difference between these two seems to be that they fit different dishwasher models (Resonlig for Skinande, Rengöra, and LAGAN; Behjälplig for Hjälpsam). However, I have not yet figured out which one is needed for a non-IKEA dishwasher.
There is also Ersättare (00250664), which appears to be an installation solution for semi-integrated dishwashers. Since IKEA does not offer semi-integrated appliances in their range, Ersättare is probably designed specifically for non-IKEA models that you want to install in Metod. I have also looked at the installation instructions for Ersättare, but some things are still unclear to me:
As I understand it, the lower part of the front must be a partial front with a height of 20cm (8 inches), which is hinged in such a way that it flips open when the dishwasher door is opened. Does this mean that a continuous front is not possible with semi-integrated dishwashers???
Additionally, the instructions state that the upper partial front, also 20cm (8 inches) high, must be cut to size depending on the dishwasher’s trim height. I assume this would only apply to fronts without embossed patterns, because if, for example, I cut a Lidingö front (which has an embossed pattern) in the middle at 20cm (8 inches), I would be cutting through the design?
Since I want to install an existing dishwasher with a semi-integrated front in my new Metod kitchen with Lidingö/Bodbyn fronts, I am currently puzzled about how the installation should actually look.
Since Metod will be available in Austria from April 1st, I will definitely ask IKEA then.
Does anyone already know the answers to my questions?
Best regards
Sektionschef
B
Bartussek14 Oct 2015 10:10Hello,
I am currently facing the challenge of integrating a Siemens dishwasher into a Metod kitchen.
I think there are two solutions:
1. Not installing the dishwasher all the way up to the countertop. This will cause the front panel to extend a few centimeters (inches) above the countertop even when closed, or
2. Cutting the front panel at the hinge point of the dishwasher door and attaching the lower 10cm (4 inches) like a drawer front by securing it on the sides to the base cabinets—similar to the panel above the sink door.
I am currently facing the challenge of integrating a Siemens dishwasher into a Metod kitchen.
I think there are two solutions:
1. Not installing the dishwasher all the way up to the countertop. This will cause the front panel to extend a few centimeters (inches) above the countertop even when closed, or
2. Cutting the front panel at the hinge point of the dishwasher door and attaching the lower 10cm (4 inches) like a drawer front by securing it on the sides to the base cabinets—similar to the panel above the sink door.
I
IKEA-Experte14 Oct 2015 10:14Hello,
1. This only works with a dishwasher height of 81.5 cm (32 inches) if the kitchen plinth is raised.
2. It is not ideal for a textured front. In that case, it is better to use ERSÄTTARE.
1. This only works with a dishwasher height of 81.5 cm (32 inches) if the kitchen plinth is raised.
2. It is not ideal for a textured front. In that case, it is better to use ERSÄTTARE.
Hello,
I want to install a fully integrated Siemens dishwasher (e.g., SN65L084EU in standard height) into a METOD kitchen. I have read quite a bit in this forum and would like to install it using the "Stefan method," meaning I would raise the dishwasher up to 28mm (1.1 inches) below the countertop, fill the remaining space with a piece of leftover countertop material (28mm (1.1 inches) thick), and fasten the front panel in one piece (80cm (31.5 inches) wide). This would give me an installation height for the dishwasher of 85.2cm (33.5 inches) (88.0cm (34.6 inches) minus 2.8cm (1.1 inches)), and the front panel would protrude by these 2.8cm (1.1 inches) — which would only be visible when the door is open.
Could someone tell me if this will work?
Do I still need to raise the kitchen kickboard (plinth) to 9cm (3.5 inches)? If yes, why?
Has anyone done it this way? And are there any pictures?
I want to install a fully integrated Siemens dishwasher (e.g., SN65L084EU in standard height) into a METOD kitchen. I have read quite a bit in this forum and would like to install it using the "Stefan method," meaning I would raise the dishwasher up to 28mm (1.1 inches) below the countertop, fill the remaining space with a piece of leftover countertop material (28mm (1.1 inches) thick), and fasten the front panel in one piece (80cm (31.5 inches) wide). This would give me an installation height for the dishwasher of 85.2cm (33.5 inches) (88.0cm (34.6 inches) minus 2.8cm (1.1 inches)), and the front panel would protrude by these 2.8cm (1.1 inches) — which would only be visible when the door is open.
Could someone tell me if this will work?
Do I still need to raise the kitchen kickboard (plinth) to 9cm (3.5 inches)? If yes, why?
Has anyone done it this way? And are there any pictures?
I
IKEA-Experte22 Nov 2015 16:51Hello, that won’t work. The maximum front height is specified as 725 mm (29 inches). Therefore, the front must protrude by 75 mm (3 inches). Since the minimum height of the dishwasher itself is 815 mm (32 inches), this results in a total of 890 mm (35 inches) including the protruding front. With the 8 cm (3 inches) baseboard, however, the niche is only 880 mm (35 inches) high. Therefore, the baseboard needs to be increased to at least 9 cm (4 inches).
Thank you for the quick response!
I probably had the wrong sketch and made a mistake in my thinking.
Would it be possible to use an SX dishwasher for the whole setup? If yes, by how much would I need to lower it to install a continuous front panel?
What would be the most cost-effective and least complicated solution?
I probably had the wrong sketch and made a mistake in my thinking.
Would it be possible to use an SX dishwasher for the whole setup? If yes, by how much would I need to lower it to install a continuous front panel?
What would be the most cost-effective and least complicated solution?
I
IKEA-Experte22 Nov 2015 17:25If limited to Siemens, the easiest option:
Idealo.de/price-comparison/OffersOfProduct/4597269_-sx76p030eu-Siemens.HTML
the cheapest (Stefa method):
Idealo.de/price-comparison/OffersOfProduct/4597274_-sx63d002eu-Siemens.HTML
I have not checked whether a better model is offered cheaper by any retailer.
Idealo.de/price-comparison/OffersOfProduct/4597269_-sx76p030eu-Siemens.HTML
the cheapest (Stefa method):
Idealo.de/price-comparison/OffersOfProduct/4597274_-sx63d002eu-Siemens.HTML
I have not checked whether a better model is offered cheaper by any retailer.
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