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Has anyone here already looked into the installation options for dishwasher fronts in the new Metod kitchen system? I have spent some time researching this topic and would like to share my current findings with you:
As I understand it, IKEA now offers the option in Metod to have the dishwasher fronts divided, so they appear as if the dishwasher has multiple drawers. Alternatively, you can install a continuous door as before. This can also be selected in the online planner, which will then display the desired front layout.
Additionally, I found out that Metod requires a special mechanism where the dishwasher fronts slide along rails attached to the dishwasher door. I think it works similarly to the sliding doors on refrigerators.
What isn’t clear to me yet is whether this special sliding mechanism is mandatory with Metod, or if you can still mount the front fixed directly to the dishwasher door as before. Does this have something to do with the different plinth height between Metod and Faktum?
If you want to attach multiple partial fronts to the dishwasher door, you need the Vaglig (20250663) product. This consists of two rails that hold the partial fronts together. But as far as I understand, this does not include the sliding mechanism itself.
For the sliding mechanism, you then need either Resonlig (50248348) or Behjälplig (50242426). The difference between these two seems to be that they fit different dishwasher models (Resonlig for Skinande, Rengöra, and LAGAN; Behjälplig for Hjälpsam). However, I have not yet figured out which one is needed for a non-IKEA dishwasher.
There is also Ersättare (00250664), which appears to be an installation solution for semi-integrated dishwashers. Since IKEA does not offer semi-integrated appliances in their range, Ersättare is probably designed specifically for non-IKEA models that you want to install in Metod. I have also looked at the installation instructions for Ersättare, but some things are still unclear to me:
As I understand it, the lower part of the front must be a partial front with a height of 20cm (8 inches), which is hinged in such a way that it flips open when the dishwasher door is opened. Does this mean that a continuous front is not possible with semi-integrated dishwashers???
Additionally, the instructions state that the upper partial front, also 20cm (8 inches) high, must be cut to size depending on the dishwasher’s trim height. I assume this would only apply to fronts without embossed patterns, because if, for example, I cut a Lidingö front (which has an embossed pattern) in the middle at 20cm (8 inches), I would be cutting through the design?
Since I want to install an existing dishwasher with a semi-integrated front in my new Metod kitchen with Lidingö/Bodbyn fronts, I am currently puzzled about how the installation should actually look.
Since Metod will be available in Austria from April 1st, I will definitely ask IKEA then.
Does anyone already know the answers to my questions?
Best regards
Sektionschef
Has anyone here already looked into the installation options for dishwasher fronts in the new Metod kitchen system? I have spent some time researching this topic and would like to share my current findings with you:
As I understand it, IKEA now offers the option in Metod to have the dishwasher fronts divided, so they appear as if the dishwasher has multiple drawers. Alternatively, you can install a continuous door as before. This can also be selected in the online planner, which will then display the desired front layout.
Additionally, I found out that Metod requires a special mechanism where the dishwasher fronts slide along rails attached to the dishwasher door. I think it works similarly to the sliding doors on refrigerators.
What isn’t clear to me yet is whether this special sliding mechanism is mandatory with Metod, or if you can still mount the front fixed directly to the dishwasher door as before. Does this have something to do with the different plinth height between Metod and Faktum?
If you want to attach multiple partial fronts to the dishwasher door, you need the Vaglig (20250663) product. This consists of two rails that hold the partial fronts together. But as far as I understand, this does not include the sliding mechanism itself.
For the sliding mechanism, you then need either Resonlig (50248348) or Behjälplig (50242426). The difference between these two seems to be that they fit different dishwasher models (Resonlig for Skinande, Rengöra, and LAGAN; Behjälplig for Hjälpsam). However, I have not yet figured out which one is needed for a non-IKEA dishwasher.
There is also Ersättare (00250664), which appears to be an installation solution for semi-integrated dishwashers. Since IKEA does not offer semi-integrated appliances in their range, Ersättare is probably designed specifically for non-IKEA models that you want to install in Metod. I have also looked at the installation instructions for Ersättare, but some things are still unclear to me:
As I understand it, the lower part of the front must be a partial front with a height of 20cm (8 inches), which is hinged in such a way that it flips open when the dishwasher door is opened. Does this mean that a continuous front is not possible with semi-integrated dishwashers???
Additionally, the instructions state that the upper partial front, also 20cm (8 inches) high, must be cut to size depending on the dishwasher’s trim height. I assume this would only apply to fronts without embossed patterns, because if, for example, I cut a Lidingö front (which has an embossed pattern) in the middle at 20cm (8 inches), I would be cutting through the design?
Since I want to install an existing dishwasher with a semi-integrated front in my new Metod kitchen with Lidingö/Bodbyn fronts, I am currently puzzled about how the installation should actually look.
Since Metod will be available in Austria from April 1st, I will definitely ask IKEA then.
Does anyone already know the answers to my questions?
Best regards
Sektionschef
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IKEA-Experte22 Sep 2015 15:30Hello,
@robi: Is the plinth recess still not enough for the dishwasher alone? So far, unfortunately, no one has reported that. How far forward do the Metod legs need to go? If you know this from the start, you wouldn’t need to clamp additional ones in front and could install the legs accordingly.
@hinzundkunzbln: Yes, you basically understood that correctly.
Vario hinge is a term used by Bosch/Siemens/Neff. It is integrated and cannot be retrofitted. For Miele, the plinth is shaped so that such a hinge is not necessary. For AEG, you will need to research yourself.
@robi: Is the plinth recess still not enough for the dishwasher alone? So far, unfortunately, no one has reported that. How far forward do the Metod legs need to go? If you know this from the start, you wouldn’t need to clamp additional ones in front and could install the legs accordingly.
@hinzundkunzbln: Yes, you basically understood that correctly.
Vario hinge is a term used by Bosch/Siemens/Neff. It is integrated and cannot be retrofitted. For Miele, the plinth is shaped so that such a hinge is not necessary. For AEG, you will need to research yourself.
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robi_aus_ffm22 Sep 2015 15:48Hello Ikea expert,
Quote:
“Is the toe kick recess alone not enough for the dishwasher? No one has reported that so far (unfortunately). How far forward do the METOD legs need to go? If you know this in advance, you wouldn’t need to add extra ones in front and could mount the legs accordingly.”
I just measured it. Because of the washing machine, the toe kick is set back about 5 cm (2 inches) from the start of the cabinet body (without the door). I don’t want to remove the kickboard now, so you still need to check the distance between the legs and the snap clip of the toe kick.
With the Bosch dishwasher alone, about 6.5 cm (2.5 inches) would be enough. For me, it’s also 5 cm (2 inches) so it looks consistent.
But...
Considering what the kitchen costs overall, you shouldn’t stress over 6–12 euros for the legs and just add them extra. It doesn’t hurt.
Best regards,
robi_aus_ffm
Quote:
“Is the toe kick recess alone not enough for the dishwasher? No one has reported that so far (unfortunately). How far forward do the METOD legs need to go? If you know this in advance, you wouldn’t need to add extra ones in front and could mount the legs accordingly.”
I just measured it. Because of the washing machine, the toe kick is set back about 5 cm (2 inches) from the start of the cabinet body (without the door). I don’t want to remove the kickboard now, so you still need to check the distance between the legs and the snap clip of the toe kick.
With the Bosch dishwasher alone, about 6.5 cm (2.5 inches) would be enough. For me, it’s also 5 cm (2 inches) so it looks consistent.
But...
Considering what the kitchen costs overall, you shouldn’t stress over 6–12 euros for the legs and just add them extra. It doesn’t hurt.
Best regards,
robi_aus_ffm
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Juliette W22 Sep 2015 15:55IKEA expert, with us the Siemens SX778D01TE didn’t need any feet or modifications at all, the machines have those rotating feet underneath. And the baseboard was also installed easily in front of it:
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robi_aus_ffm22 Sep 2015 15:59@juliette, you were probably lucky to be able to attach the cabinets along a straight wall on the rail.
Unfortunately, not everyone has that luck due to pipes, uneven surfaces, and so on.
By the way, your kitchen looks great.
Best regards, robi
Unfortunately, not everyone has that luck due to pipes, uneven surfaces, and so on.
By the way, your kitchen looks great.
Best regards, robi
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Juliette W22 Sep 2015 18:38Thanks, robi, it was a long planning phase, but definitely worth it.
The wall was quite crooked and uneven (despite being a new build), but we didn’t have to work around any pipes. If I remember correctly, only the upper cabinets and tall units are hung on the rails. Although I can’t be completely sure about that now...
The wall was quite crooked and uneven (despite being a new build), but we didn’t have to work around any pipes. If I remember correctly, only the upper cabinets and tall units are hung on the rails. Although I can’t be completely sure about that now...
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robi_aus_ffm22 Sep 2015 19:10But in the end, everything somehow worked out.
Best regards, robi_aus_ffm
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