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Has anyone here already looked into the installation options for dishwasher fronts in the new Metod kitchen system? I have spent some time researching this topic and would like to share my current findings with you:
As I understand it, IKEA now offers the option in Metod to have the dishwasher fronts divided, so they appear as if the dishwasher has multiple drawers. Alternatively, you can install a continuous door as before. This can also be selected in the online planner, which will then display the desired front layout.
Additionally, I found out that Metod requires a special mechanism where the dishwasher fronts slide along rails attached to the dishwasher door. I think it works similarly to the sliding doors on refrigerators.
What isn’t clear to me yet is whether this special sliding mechanism is mandatory with Metod, or if you can still mount the front fixed directly to the dishwasher door as before. Does this have something to do with the different plinth height between Metod and Faktum?
If you want to attach multiple partial fronts to the dishwasher door, you need the Vaglig (20250663) product. This consists of two rails that hold the partial fronts together. But as far as I understand, this does not include the sliding mechanism itself.
For the sliding mechanism, you then need either Resonlig (50248348) or Behjälplig (50242426). The difference between these two seems to be that they fit different dishwasher models (Resonlig for Skinande, Rengöra, and LAGAN; Behjälplig for Hjälpsam). However, I have not yet figured out which one is needed for a non-IKEA dishwasher.
There is also Ersättare (00250664), which appears to be an installation solution for semi-integrated dishwashers. Since IKEA does not offer semi-integrated appliances in their range, Ersättare is probably designed specifically for non-IKEA models that you want to install in Metod. I have also looked at the installation instructions for Ersättare, but some things are still unclear to me:
As I understand it, the lower part of the front must be a partial front with a height of 20cm (8 inches), which is hinged in such a way that it flips open when the dishwasher door is opened. Does this mean that a continuous front is not possible with semi-integrated dishwashers???
Additionally, the instructions state that the upper partial front, also 20cm (8 inches) high, must be cut to size depending on the dishwasher’s trim height. I assume this would only apply to fronts without embossed patterns, because if, for example, I cut a Lidingö front (which has an embossed pattern) in the middle at 20cm (8 inches), I would be cutting through the design?
Since I want to install an existing dishwasher with a semi-integrated front in my new Metod kitchen with Lidingö/Bodbyn fronts, I am currently puzzled about how the installation should actually look.
Since Metod will be available in Austria from April 1st, I will definitely ask IKEA then.
Does anyone already know the answers to my questions?
Best regards
Sektionschef
Has anyone here already looked into the installation options for dishwasher fronts in the new Metod kitchen system? I have spent some time researching this topic and would like to share my current findings with you:
As I understand it, IKEA now offers the option in Metod to have the dishwasher fronts divided, so they appear as if the dishwasher has multiple drawers. Alternatively, you can install a continuous door as before. This can also be selected in the online planner, which will then display the desired front layout.
Additionally, I found out that Metod requires a special mechanism where the dishwasher fronts slide along rails attached to the dishwasher door. I think it works similarly to the sliding doors on refrigerators.
What isn’t clear to me yet is whether this special sliding mechanism is mandatory with Metod, or if you can still mount the front fixed directly to the dishwasher door as before. Does this have something to do with the different plinth height between Metod and Faktum?
If you want to attach multiple partial fronts to the dishwasher door, you need the Vaglig (20250663) product. This consists of two rails that hold the partial fronts together. But as far as I understand, this does not include the sliding mechanism itself.
For the sliding mechanism, you then need either Resonlig (50248348) or Behjälplig (50242426). The difference between these two seems to be that they fit different dishwasher models (Resonlig for Skinande, Rengöra, and LAGAN; Behjälplig for Hjälpsam). However, I have not yet figured out which one is needed for a non-IKEA dishwasher.
There is also Ersättare (00250664), which appears to be an installation solution for semi-integrated dishwashers. Since IKEA does not offer semi-integrated appliances in their range, Ersättare is probably designed specifically for non-IKEA models that you want to install in Metod. I have also looked at the installation instructions for Ersättare, but some things are still unclear to me:
As I understand it, the lower part of the front must be a partial front with a height of 20cm (8 inches), which is hinged in such a way that it flips open when the dishwasher door is opened. Does this mean that a continuous front is not possible with semi-integrated dishwashers???
Additionally, the instructions state that the upper partial front, also 20cm (8 inches) high, must be cut to size depending on the dishwasher’s trim height. I assume this would only apply to fronts without embossed patterns, because if, for example, I cut a Lidingö front (which has an embossed pattern) in the middle at 20cm (8 inches), I would be cutting through the design?
Since I want to install an existing dishwasher with a semi-integrated front in my new Metod kitchen with Lidingö/Bodbyn fronts, I am currently puzzled about how the installation should actually look.
Since Metod will be available in Austria from April 1st, I will definitely ask IKEA then.
Does anyone already know the answers to my questions?
Best regards
Sektionschef
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Trulla-die-Waldfee25 Aug 2015 15:18Hey, where are the experts?
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IKEA-Experte26 Aug 2015 12:29Hello, try using the Stefan method, and if that doesn’t work, the only option left is to use ERSÄTTARE with a 60/20 front layout.
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kuechendepp9 Sep 2015 23:01Is it possible that the selection of 45cm (18 inches) wide dishwashers with a variable hinge is very limited?
So far, I have found the following models, among others:
Neff S78T69X0EU
Siemens SR76T095EU
What puzzles me a bit is that the Siemens device’s dimensional drawing states a maximum front panel height of only 75cm (30 inches).
Are there no dishwashers to which I can attach an 80cm (32 inches) front panel?
Or are 75cm (30 inches) sufficient to make it look good from the front?
So far, I have found the following models, among others:
Neff S78T69X0EU
Siemens SR76T095EU
What puzzles me a bit is that the Siemens device’s dimensional drawing states a maximum front panel height of only 75cm (30 inches).
Are there no dishwashers to which I can attach an 80cm (32 inches) front panel?
Or are 75cm (30 inches) sufficient to make it look good from the front?
I
IKEA-Experte10 Sep 2015 15:41Hello, there is only the Medelstor from Ikea that the front fits on directly. Alternatively, you can use any other appliance, build the kitchen with a 9 cm (3.5 inches) plinth height, and have the front overlap at the top of the dishwasher door by about 7.5 cm (3 inches), depending on the maximum specified front height.
I’d like to join in with my question here.
After going through the topic, I’m still a bit uncertain.
The Stefan method means that the dishwasher stands almost without legs, and the front panel is firmly screwed onto the door. As a result, a certain part of the front panel would always protrude. (Is there actually a picture of this?)
With the Vario hinge, the front panel only protrudes when the door is open, right? (at least in some pictures)
Can you use any XXL version from different manufacturers with the Vario hinge? Are these hinges included?
Do you have any recommendations for a few models – price / performance / installability?
Is a continuous plinth possible with both options?
Thanks...
After going through the topic, I’m still a bit uncertain.
The Stefan method means that the dishwasher stands almost without legs, and the front panel is firmly screwed onto the door. As a result, a certain part of the front panel would always protrude. (Is there actually a picture of this?)
With the Vario hinge, the front panel only protrudes when the door is open, right? (at least in some pictures)
Can you use any XXL version from different manufacturers with the Vario hinge? Are these hinges included?
Do you have any recommendations for a few models – price / performance / installability?
Is a continuous plinth possible with both options?
Thanks...
R
robi_aus_ffm22 Sep 2015 06:45hello hinzundkunzbln,
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Is a continuous baseboard possible with both options?
I have a dishwasher with a variable hinge and a fully integrated washing machine installed. These appliances have a slightly extended base at the front bottom. However, this is not a problem at all. I purchased additional Metod legs, cut off the upper plastic knobs, and then attached them a few centimeters (inches) further forward, beneath the cabinet frames (left and right of the appliances as well as the entire front), clamping them in place by turning them into the plastic screw threads. The baseboard is then fixed to these. This way, you have a straight front even under the cabinets at the baseboard level.
Regards, robi
Quote:
Is a continuous baseboard possible with both options?
I have a dishwasher with a variable hinge and a fully integrated washing machine installed. These appliances have a slightly extended base at the front bottom. However, this is not a problem at all. I purchased additional Metod legs, cut off the upper plastic knobs, and then attached them a few centimeters (inches) further forward, beneath the cabinet frames (left and right of the appliances as well as the entire front), clamping them in place by turning them into the plastic screw threads. The baseboard is then fixed to these. This way, you have a straight front even under the cabinets at the baseboard level.
Regards, robi
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