ᐅ Floor plan design shortly before submitting the building permit application

Created on: 2 Oct 2017 23:25
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R.Hotzenplotz
Hello everyone!

As some users have requested before, I’m now starting a new thread with the current planning of our detached house, which is about to be finalized.

These are the preliminary drawings for the building permit / planning permission application, and I have one last chance to review them and point out any issues.

It still seems to me that there is less than 1.20m (4 feet) of space between the two wardrobes in the dressing room. Or am I seeing this wrong? Apparently, the rooms on the left and right were overlooked and not adjusted accordingly.

Two Velux ceiling spotlights are still planned to illuminate the upper floor hallway.

In the basement, on the right side in the upper room, a window similar to the one on the left basement side is an option.

We still haven’t decided on the T30 fire-rated door to the garage, even though it is shown in the plans. Most likely, for safety reasons and the limited use of the kitchen at the other end of the house, we will eventually forgo it.

User 11ant pointed out that the right window in child’s room 2 is suboptimally positioned. However, this could still be changed after submitting the building permit / planning permission application. Our architect thinks moving the window to the left would negatively affect the house’s exterior appearance. We’ll have to see about that.

Grundriss Kellergeschoss mit 3 Kellerräumen, Abstellraum, Flur, Haustechnik und Treppe.


Grundriss eines Hauses mit Keller, Flur KG, Haustechnik KG, Abstellraum KG und Treppen


Grundriss eines Hauses: Garage, Büro, Garderobe, Diele, WC, Küche, Wohn-/Essbereich.


Grundriss Dachgeschoss: Schlafzimmer, Ankleide, Bad, Dusche, zwei Kinderzimmer, Flur HWR Dachterrasse


Technischer Grundriss: Zentraler, ungenutzter DG-Bereich (193 m²) mit umlaufenden Dachschrägen.


Schnitt durch mehrstöckiges Wohnhaus mit Keller, Treppe, Dachkonstruktion und Maßlinien.


Moderne Wohnhausansicht: zweigeschossiges Gebäude mit Garage links und großen Fenstern.


Architektonischer Haus-Elevationsplan: Keller bis Dachgeschoss, Dach, Fenster, Geländeprofil.


Moderne zweigeschossige Hausansicht mit Flachdach, Balkonen, großen Fenstern und Garage.


Zweistöckiges Haus mit dunkler Fassade, grauem Dach, Balkon rechts und Garten mit Bäumen.
11ant8 Aug 2018 01:18
R.Hotzenplotz schrieb:
Initially, two cabinets were planned, so we didn’t question it further.

Since this is the dressing room (and staircase direction) forum after all
R.Hotzenplotz schrieb:
With a carpenter, I start from scratch and need a detailed bill of quantities for materials, adhesives, etc.

In Cologne we say: “Dude, you’re crazy!” — how do you come up with such, in my opinion, absurd ideas?

A carpenter is no fool when it comes to cabinet making. If he buys yellow- or white-fleshed peaches from you, he wouldn’t ask which exact RAL color it is or if you can visualize it. A truly passionate carpenter will build you an inspector gadget cabinet with more space inside than outside, dimmable toe-kick lighting, and electrically extending drawers — and all surprisingly close to a ready-made price.
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Kekse
8 Aug 2018 04:49
R.Hotzenplotz schrieb:
But the cabinets are also 68cm (27 inches) and 71cm (28 inches) deep.

What do you want to do with cabinets that deep? I think it’s a waste of space because you won’t be able to reach the back anyway (except maybe at chest height, but even then it’s annoying to have items stacked behind). I already find the Pax cabinets too deep (except for hanging clothes, but for that depth is more than enough, and you definitely don’t need more depth, especially not on both sides).
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kbt09
8 Aug 2018 05:35
The Pax wardrobes with sliding doors are also 66 cm deep (26 inches). The doors add to the overall depth.
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Alex85
8 Aug 2018 06:36
Kekse schrieb:
What do you want to do with such deep cabinets? I think it’s a waste of space since you can’t really reach the back anyway (except maybe at torso height, but even then it’s annoying to have stacks at the back). I already find the Pax too deep (except for hanging clothes, where that depth is just fine, but it definitely doesn’t need to be any deeper, especially not on both sides)

Sliding door plus wood accents.
I believe that’s the wrong choice. The dressing room is, to put it bluntly, given the constraints of this space, not really a dressing room but at best a walk-in closet. Because, as Räuber already points out, there’s no room for shelving, seating, valet stand, etc. So you pick out your clothes and take them into the bedroom.
I would skip wardrobe doors and work with open shelves or similar. You could still have the sliding door in front if you like. And I’d let go of the idea that “it looks bad,” because no one really sees that. To me, that always sounds like the wardrobe somehow needs to look impressive or formal.
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Maria16
8 Aug 2018 07:16
Winter coats can just as well be hung in the basement. Whether you carry them down or up a flight of stairs in winter doesn’t really make a difference...?

Are you planning to discuss the cloakroom furniture here as well?
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Wickie
8 Aug 2018 08:14
R.Hotzenplotz schrieb:
So it seems a carpenter’s custom solution for the cabinets is off the table. I want to go somewhere, touch, configure, and order… with a carpenter, I’d have to start from scratch and need a detailed bill of quantities for materials, adhesives, etc. – I don’t have the patience for that.

Touching and configuring: OK, I can still understand that.
Creating a bill of quantities for materials (for a professional)?: Sorry, that’s complete nonsense!

Have you ever dealt with a carpenter? They’ll craft the RIGHT cabinet for you according to your wishes, with an interior exactly how YOU want it. Not like Hülsta feels the need to offer it. And only focusing on the look without considering what the cabinet actually needs to do is just nonsense!

The approach is the same as when building a house. You want something very special but you’re focusing on the wrong things. Special solution → professional
Standard quick solution → general contractor or Hülsta

You’re setting the wrong priorities, and by now I also see a certain resistance to learning.