ᐅ Floor plan design shortly before submitting the building permit application

Created on: 2 Oct 2017 23:25
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R.Hotzenplotz
Hello everyone!

As some users have requested before, I’m now starting a new thread with the current planning of our detached house, which is about to be finalized.

These are the preliminary drawings for the building permit / planning permission application, and I have one last chance to review them and point out any issues.

It still seems to me that there is less than 1.20m (4 feet) of space between the two wardrobes in the dressing room. Or am I seeing this wrong? Apparently, the rooms on the left and right were overlooked and not adjusted accordingly.

Two Velux ceiling spotlights are still planned to illuminate the upper floor hallway.

In the basement, on the right side in the upper room, a window similar to the one on the left basement side is an option.

We still haven’t decided on the T30 fire-rated door to the garage, even though it is shown in the plans. Most likely, for safety reasons and the limited use of the kitchen at the other end of the house, we will eventually forgo it.

User 11ant pointed out that the right window in child’s room 2 is suboptimally positioned. However, this could still be changed after submitting the building permit / planning permission application. Our architect thinks moving the window to the left would negatively affect the house’s exterior appearance. We’ll have to see about that.

Grundriss Kellergeschoss mit 3 Kellerräumen, Abstellraum, Flur, Haustechnik und Treppe.


Grundriss eines Hauses mit Keller, Flur KG, Haustechnik KG, Abstellraum KG und Treppen


Grundriss eines Hauses: Garage, BĂźro, Garderobe, Diele, WC, KĂźche, Wohn-/Essbereich.


Grundriss Dachgeschoss: Schlafzimmer, Ankleide, Bad, Dusche, zwei Kinderzimmer, Flur HWR Dachterrasse


Technischer Grundriss: Zentraler, ungenutzter DG-Bereich (193 m²) mit umlaufenden Dachschrägen.


Schnitt durch mehrstöckiges Wohnhaus mit Keller, Treppe, Dachkonstruktion und Maßlinien.


Moderne Wohnhausansicht: zweigeschossiges Gebäude mit Garage links und großen Fenstern.


Architektonischer Haus-Elevationsplan: Keller bis Dachgeschoss, Dach, Fenster, Geländeprofil.


Moderne zweigeschossige Hausansicht mit Flachdach, Balkonen, großen Fenstern und Garage.


ZweistÜckiges Haus mit dunkler Fassade, grauem Dach, Balkon rechts und Garten mit Bäumen.
11ant14 Dec 2017 22:41
R.Hotzenplotz schrieb:
because apart from the mentioned two-story new building, there are only single-story houses with pitched roofs.

I would base the comparison on the following reference points: for the overall height, use the wall height / eave height of the two-story houses as a guide, and for the height of the ground floor, refer to the room heights of the single-story houses.
R.Hotzenplotz schrieb:
I’m afraid it will have to be brought down to a conventional floor height,

There is no such thing as a “conventional” or fixed old-fashioned floor height: you can’t expect modern floor constructions to reduce their insulation thickness when calculating clear room height; however, you can more reasonably expect adjustments regarding different screed thicknesses in heated floors.

Personally, I find clear heights of 260 cm (8 ft 6 in) on the ground floor and 240 cm (7 ft 10½ in) on the upper floor perfectly adequate.

However, I understood the basic sizing to have been settled during the preliminary inquiry, so this should no longer pose any obstacles during the actual building permit / planning permission application.
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ruppsn
14 Dec 2017 22:44
R.Hotzenplotz schrieb:
It would be as much of a compromise as lowering the ceiling height.

If both compromises weighed equally, the flat roof would likely be the more expensive option. Also more costly than the roof you have planned so far.

Lower ceiling height means less masonry, less plaster, less facade work... both materials and labor. So that would be cheaper than the current solution.

In the end, I would wait to see what the authorities and the architect say. Worrying without facts isn’t very helpful. Have your designer present several options; you won’t have to decide on the spot and will have time to consider each option. In other words: don’t stress, it will work out! [emoji4]
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R.Hotzenplotz
15 Dec 2017 05:23
That is an important point. It is interesting to see how much cheaper the building becomes when it is lower in height.

One can only hope that the general contractor passes on the cost savings in full. Basically, there is nothing we can do since the contract has already been signed. Regardless of the amount of reduction offered, it will have to be accepted. Apart from that, there will probably be additional architect fees and possibly extra structural engineer costs, which will likely need to be paid separately.
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j.bautsch
15 Dec 2017 10:15
So far, I have always had about 2.45m (8 feet) of clear ceiling height in my rental apartments, and even in our 36m² (387 sq ft) living/dining room, I don’t find the height oppressive.
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ypg
15 Dec 2017 12:39
We also have 2.45 meters (8 feet) in the kitchen and dining area, but to compensate, there is an open space in the living room. Throughout the entire 60 square meters (645 square feet), this height might be a few centimeters too low for me. However, in the bedrooms, which are not that large, a slightly lower ceiling height is acceptable — personally, 2.40 meters (7 feet 10 inches) would be sufficient for me.
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Egon12
15 Dec 2017 13:51
As the saying goes, "Man’s will is his heaven," we only have 2.45 meters (8 feet) ceiling height, and I am 1.86 meters (6 feet 1 inch) tall. I don’t find the ceiling height at all oppressive. It would be different if we wanted to lower it, but then with a 2.60 meters (8 feet 6 inches) ceiling, lowering it would leave only about 1.45 meters (4 feet 9 inches) of height.

With higher ceilings, I would have to get a step ladder for every little task, which I would find much more annoying.