ᐅ Floor plan design shortly before submitting the building permit application
Created on: 2 Oct 2017 23:25
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R.Hotzenplotz
Hello everyone!
As some users have requested before, I’m now starting a new thread with the current planning of our detached house, which is about to be finalized.
These are the preliminary drawings for the building permit / planning permission application, and I have one last chance to review them and point out any issues.
It still seems to me that there is less than 1.20m (4 feet) of space between the two wardrobes in the dressing room. Or am I seeing this wrong? Apparently, the rooms on the left and right were overlooked and not adjusted accordingly.
Two Velux ceiling spotlights are still planned to illuminate the upper floor hallway.
In the basement, on the right side in the upper room, a window similar to the one on the left basement side is an option.
We still haven’t decided on the T30 fire-rated door to the garage, even though it is shown in the plans. Most likely, for safety reasons and the limited use of the kitchen at the other end of the house, we will eventually forgo it.
User 11ant pointed out that the right window in child’s room 2 is suboptimally positioned. However, this could still be changed after submitting the building permit / planning permission application. Our architect thinks moving the window to the left would negatively affect the house’s exterior appearance. We’ll have to see about that.
As some users have requested before, I’m now starting a new thread with the current planning of our detached house, which is about to be finalized.
These are the preliminary drawings for the building permit / planning permission application, and I have one last chance to review them and point out any issues.
It still seems to me that there is less than 1.20m (4 feet) of space between the two wardrobes in the dressing room. Or am I seeing this wrong? Apparently, the rooms on the left and right were overlooked and not adjusted accordingly.
Two Velux ceiling spotlights are still planned to illuminate the upper floor hallway.
In the basement, on the right side in the upper room, a window similar to the one on the left basement side is an option.
We still haven’t decided on the T30 fire-rated door to the garage, even though it is shown in the plans. Most likely, for safety reasons and the limited use of the kitchen at the other end of the house, we will eventually forgo it.
User 11ant pointed out that the right window in child’s room 2 is suboptimally positioned. However, this could still be changed after submitting the building permit / planning permission application. Our architect thinks moving the window to the left would negatively affect the house’s exterior appearance. We’ll have to see about that.
R.Hotzenplotz schrieb:
From your point of view, is this only interesting at the bathroom / dressing room interface? Otherwise, I would have suggested it elsewhere as well. The cost difference is not significant; what’s more appealing is the more flexible placement and the possibility to remove or relocate it.
R.Hotzenplotz schrieb:
But if you have to go down to the basement every time to change watches, jewelry, etc., that’s not very convenient. Watches, daily jewelry, and similar items are usually kept in a furniture safe, which can also be anchored through the wardrobe into the stud wall. The basement safe is for formal jewelry and stocks.
R.Hotzenplotz schrieb:
We currently have windows on the first floor with a sill height of about 88 cm. That’s 24 cm (about 9½ inches) less than 112 cm (44 inches), roughly head height. As I said, just block it off and imagine the view below is not there. It’s not just about a rewarding landscape view, but also about the feeling of not being “walled in.”
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R.Hotzenplotz3 Oct 2017 16:29kbt09 schrieb:
Unfortunately, I no longer remember if the plans are oriented to true north... in any case, I can better imagine Child 1’s room with the wide window on the longer wall and the narrow window on the shorter wall.
For Child 2, I also find the flush-mounted right window completely unsuitable... a wardrobe will always have to leave a gap next to the window, and it still looks odd.
Therefore, my suggestion is "form follows function," especially since the 3x2 window sections are different anyway due to the wall column between Child 2’s room and the bathroom, and there is no other reference to the lower floor or similar. I would work on that some more.The children’s rooms face south. The room on the left exterior wall faces northwest.
I am increasingly convinced that the entire window situation needs to be revised. Once you start changing the front upstairs, it affects everything from the children’s bathroom on the right to the west wall of the child’s room at the other end. This has also made me consider the windows in the living room. In the visualizations, it doesn’t bother you, but when you look at it with a tape measure, you actually perceive it differently. If I make any changes now, it has to be final; I will need to give the architect very precise instructions about which window goes where and exactly what changes are made. I would prefer not to send it back and forth three more times until it fits.
I fully agree with "form follows function." You are right about that!
EDIT:
My wife just came in and said she finds the windows here in our house too low. The children don’t need to be looking out onto the street. She wants to keep the windows at their current sill height. But I would still move them to better accommodate the lintel. And in the office downstairs, I definitely want to have a proper view outside.
@11ant:
Does the lightweight partition wall have any advantages besides being a bit narrower than the wall shown on the plans?
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R.Hotzenplotz3 Oct 2017 18:28I took up the advice about detailed furniture planning again and have now spent over an hour on it. Two issues came up.
1) The situation with the windows in child’s room 2 now seems even worse than before. We absolutely have to follow the principle of form follows function. The desk placement is a disaster, and the closet, which can’t be placed flush against the bottom wall, is a problem. Everything needs to be reconsidered.
Some of you might remember that a few weeks ago we had a design phase where one of the architects completely redesigned the window layout on the front side. It slightly disrupted the exterior appearance, so we reverted it. But isn’t that exactly the solution we need here? I’m attaching it again!
Right now, I’m just focusing on the arrangement, not the sill heights or dimensions.
Should we go with this proposal or come up with something completely new? I’d need to make concrete suggestions on how I want to solve it because otherwise, I’ll keep dithering for weeks.
2) Since the dining table has to move back to the right side, where it was before, I noticed that the window on the far right should be higher. Otherwise, it limits furnishing options below the window. This was clearly drawn before but has somehow been changed. You don’t always notice things like that right away, especially when furniture suddenly disappears or is swapped around. What a valuable hint to pick up on that today! I’ve attached a rough idea of how I imagine the window. The wall space between the right window and the patio sliding door is useless for meaningful furnishing anyway. So I think it’s better to keep it as small as possible. A wall lamp there would be enough.
Looking through the contract documents, I also noticed that the Velux daylight spots I wanted for the hallway on the first floor were forgotten. Also, the 204-liter (54-gallon) hot water tank looks way too small.
I’m still considering whether it makes sense that apparently there is no drainage in the garage.
So much still comes up when the building consultant goes over the contract documents with a fine-tooth comb. I’m sure this will keep me busy intensely for several more weeks.
1) The situation with the windows in child’s room 2 now seems even worse than before. We absolutely have to follow the principle of form follows function. The desk placement is a disaster, and the closet, which can’t be placed flush against the bottom wall, is a problem. Everything needs to be reconsidered.
Some of you might remember that a few weeks ago we had a design phase where one of the architects completely redesigned the window layout on the front side. It slightly disrupted the exterior appearance, so we reverted it. But isn’t that exactly the solution we need here? I’m attaching it again!
Right now, I’m just focusing on the arrangement, not the sill heights or dimensions.
Should we go with this proposal or come up with something completely new? I’d need to make concrete suggestions on how I want to solve it because otherwise, I’ll keep dithering for weeks.
2) Since the dining table has to move back to the right side, where it was before, I noticed that the window on the far right should be higher. Otherwise, it limits furnishing options below the window. This was clearly drawn before but has somehow been changed. You don’t always notice things like that right away, especially when furniture suddenly disappears or is swapped around. What a valuable hint to pick up on that today! I’ve attached a rough idea of how I imagine the window. The wall space between the right window and the patio sliding door is useless for meaningful furnishing anyway. So I think it’s better to keep it as small as possible. A wall lamp there would be enough.
Looking through the contract documents, I also noticed that the Velux daylight spots I wanted for the hallway on the first floor were forgotten. Also, the 204-liter (54-gallon) hot water tank looks way too small.
I’m still considering whether it makes sense that apparently there is no drainage in the garage.
So much still comes up when the building consultant goes over the contract documents with a fine-tooth comb. I’m sure this will keep me busy intensely for several more weeks.
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R.Hotzenplotz3 Oct 2017 18:41Regarding the parapet height, I want to revisit the ground floor. Currently, the parapet heights are planned so that all windows—from the office through the living room to the kitchen alcove—have the same parapet height. It would be good to keep it uniform. Whether sitting in the kitchen, the office, or at the dining table, you want to be able to look outside. A parapet height of 1.12 m (44 inches) might actually be too high for that. Should I lower them all to a uniform height? This would also affect the window behind the couch, but that isn’t really an issue.
I don’t find the attached floor plans very helpful. It’s especially inconvenient to try to figure out a new version that hasn’t even been dimensioned yet. It would be much easier if you placed the comparisons side by side.
I also don’t quite understand your issue with the living room window, especially since the old floor plan shows the sofa on the right side as well. Just use the floor plans as they are and upload them again in the post. You have them right in front of you anyway, and image links are officially no longer allowed here, so every image has to be uploaded anew.
As for the window sill height, where no kitchen planning or similar is involved, there’s nothing wrong with the standard height of 86/87.5 cm (34/34.5 inches). It’s much more practical in the office too.
I also don’t quite understand your issue with the living room window, especially since the old floor plan shows the sofa on the right side as well. Just use the floor plans as they are and upload them again in the post. You have them right in front of you anyway, and image links are officially no longer allowed here, so every image has to be uploaded anew.
As for the window sill height, where no kitchen planning or similar is involved, there’s nothing wrong with the standard height of 86/87.5 cm (34/34.5 inches). It’s much more practical in the office too.
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