ᐅ Floor plan design shortly before submitting the building permit application

Created on: 2 Oct 2017 23:25
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R.Hotzenplotz
Hello everyone!

As some users have requested before, I’m now starting a new thread with the current planning of our detached house, which is about to be finalized.

These are the preliminary drawings for the building permit / planning permission application, and I have one last chance to review them and point out any issues.

It still seems to me that there is less than 1.20m (4 feet) of space between the two wardrobes in the dressing room. Or am I seeing this wrong? Apparently, the rooms on the left and right were overlooked and not adjusted accordingly.

Two Velux ceiling spotlights are still planned to illuminate the upper floor hallway.

In the basement, on the right side in the upper room, a window similar to the one on the left basement side is an option.

We still haven’t decided on the T30 fire-rated door to the garage, even though it is shown in the plans. Most likely, for safety reasons and the limited use of the kitchen at the other end of the house, we will eventually forgo it.

User 11ant pointed out that the right window in child’s room 2 is suboptimally positioned. However, this could still be changed after submitting the building permit / planning permission application. Our architect thinks moving the window to the left would negatively affect the house’s exterior appearance. We’ll have to see about that.

Grundriss Kellergeschoss mit 3 Kellerräumen, Abstellraum, Flur, Haustechnik und Treppe.


Grundriss eines Hauses mit Keller, Flur KG, Haustechnik KG, Abstellraum KG und Treppen


Grundriss eines Hauses: Garage, Büro, Garderobe, Diele, WC, Küche, Wohn-/Essbereich.


Grundriss Dachgeschoss: Schlafzimmer, Ankleide, Bad, Dusche, zwei Kinderzimmer, Flur HWR Dachterrasse


Technischer Grundriss: Zentraler, ungenutzter DG-Bereich (193 m²) mit umlaufenden Dachschrägen.


Schnitt durch mehrstöckiges Wohnhaus mit Keller, Treppe, Dachkonstruktion und Maßlinien.


Moderne Wohnhausansicht: zweigeschossiges Gebäude mit Garage links und großen Fenstern.


Architektonischer Haus-Elevationsplan: Keller bis Dachgeschoss, Dach, Fenster, Geländeprofil.


Moderne zweigeschossige Hausansicht mit Flachdach, Balkonen, großen Fenstern und Garage.


Zweistöckiges Haus mit dunkler Fassade, grauem Dach, Balkon rechts und Garten mit Bäumen.
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R.Hotzenplotz
13 Jul 2018 22:39
11ant schrieb:
So for me, the question is not why 199 instead of 201, but why 201 instead of 213.

I just went back and checked again, but I can’t quite follow you on the 213cm (6ft 11½in).

It’s clear that from today’s perspective the 213cm (6ft 11½in) should have been planned and agreed upon. But not much more than that, right? Or did you see any grounds in your statement to challenge the current execution somewhere?
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Username_wahl
14 Jul 2018 13:24
This thread is fantastic. It reminds me of the saying: Everything went according to plan, but the plan was...

We have been living in our newly built house for 2 years, and not everything went smoothly either. Some issues still haven't been resolved. Once the contractors have been paid, they disappear. Warranty claims are useless if you don’t want to invest a lot more time and money in lawyers. Therefore, it’s best to withhold a reasonable amount of money at the end until everything is fixed and approved by an expert!
11ant14 Jul 2018 13:30
R.Hotzenplotz schrieb:
but I can’t quite follow you on the 213cm (84 inches)

They must have come into my “memory” amid the general confusion caused by the fifty-seven course changes; the execution plan from January specifies 201cm (79 inches).
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blackm8815 Jul 2018 12:40
Regarding windows... I thought the plans always show the rough opening dimensions for the window cutout. Which window is installed is decided during the selection process, for example whether it is fixed or tilt-and-turn, and which threshold is used at the floor. The window openings will not be changed, and neither will the passage.
And how would it look “from the outside” if every window or opening has a different size?!
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R.Hotzenplotz
15 Jul 2018 12:45
blackm88 schrieb:
So, what does it look like from the outside when each window or opening has a different size?!

In my opinion, it already looks quite bad as it is now. Doors with varying widths, glass panels of different sizes. The only thing that fits together is the bathroom and master bedroom doors—but even that only regarding symmetry, not functionality. Unfortunately, I hadn’t realized or noticed this clearly, even though it is visible on the plan.

So I understand your point; however, the design as it stands doesn’t meet that expectation either. At least the three balcony doors should have been planned and built to match the dimensions of the left door!

Architectural view of a two-story house with a hip roof, balcony, and large windows.


Regarding the shell construction dimensions: Yesterday I measured several windows inside the house. Their height matches the shell dimension exactly. But in terms of width, the shell dimension is sometimes listed as 4cm (1.6 inches) larger than the actual window. I don’t understand this. Therefore, I have now requested the delivery notes so the expert can verify this.
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R.Hotzenplotz
15 Jul 2018 13:17
blackm88 schrieb:
Which window will be installed is decided during the selection process, including whether it is fixed or tilt-and-turn and the type of threshold at the floor.

Was there a selection process for the windows? There wasn’t. We only looked at the front door that was shown to us, and that was it. Unfortunately, I forgot to ask about it afterward. Otherwise, I would have noticed.

How are they supposed to manage countless doors and windows in a general contractor house? They had three or four front doors on display, a case with window handles, but that was all I saw in advance regarding the windows. It’s ridiculous when I think back to standing there picking out window handles, even though it was already decided that these tiny ones would be installed. I couldn’t care less about that stupid handle we spent 15 minutes examining!