ᐅ Floor plan design shortly before submitting the building permit application
Created on: 2 Oct 2017 23:25
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R.Hotzenplotz
Hello everyone!
As some users have requested before, I’m now starting a new thread with the current planning of our detached house, which is about to be finalized.
These are the preliminary drawings for the building permit / planning permission application, and I have one last chance to review them and point out any issues.
It still seems to me that there is less than 1.20m (4 feet) of space between the two wardrobes in the dressing room. Or am I seeing this wrong? Apparently, the rooms on the left and right were overlooked and not adjusted accordingly.
Two Velux ceiling spotlights are still planned to illuminate the upper floor hallway.
In the basement, on the right side in the upper room, a window similar to the one on the left basement side is an option.
We still haven’t decided on the T30 fire-rated door to the garage, even though it is shown in the plans. Most likely, for safety reasons and the limited use of the kitchen at the other end of the house, we will eventually forgo it.
User 11ant pointed out that the right window in child’s room 2 is suboptimally positioned. However, this could still be changed after submitting the building permit / planning permission application. Our architect thinks moving the window to the left would negatively affect the house’s exterior appearance. We’ll have to see about that.
As some users have requested before, I’m now starting a new thread with the current planning of our detached house, which is about to be finalized.
These are the preliminary drawings for the building permit / planning permission application, and I have one last chance to review them and point out any issues.
It still seems to me that there is less than 1.20m (4 feet) of space between the two wardrobes in the dressing room. Or am I seeing this wrong? Apparently, the rooms on the left and right were overlooked and not adjusted accordingly.
Two Velux ceiling spotlights are still planned to illuminate the upper floor hallway.
In the basement, on the right side in the upper room, a window similar to the one on the left basement side is an option.
We still haven’t decided on the T30 fire-rated door to the garage, even though it is shown in the plans. Most likely, for safety reasons and the limited use of the kitchen at the other end of the house, we will eventually forgo it.
User 11ant pointed out that the right window in child’s room 2 is suboptimally positioned. However, this could still be changed after submitting the building permit / planning permission application. Our architect thinks moving the window to the left would negatively affect the house’s exterior appearance. We’ll have to see about that.
It’s a shame that you received such poor advice on a project like this.
In our second planning meeting, the general contractor’s architect was present and explained everything to us, including designing the windows exactly as we wanted. During the detailed planning with the construction manager, it was then decided where each window should be placed, whether fixed glass, tilt, or tilt-and-turn. For example, whether there should be a mullion in the middle of the double casement windows, and the type of glazing, like frosted glass in the bathroom, as well as the barrier-free access to the terrace...
Of course, we also discussed aluminum windows or uPVC, wood/aluminum, and the color options. The smallest detail was the handles.
Our front door is a different size than the windows – wider and taller. But that’s part of moving in.
I would assign your view about the windows to the general contractor’s architect. After all, they are generally responsible for matters like this. And it should have been clearly established in the first meeting who is responsible for what within the company and during the construction process!
In our second planning meeting, the general contractor’s architect was present and explained everything to us, including designing the windows exactly as we wanted. During the detailed planning with the construction manager, it was then decided where each window should be placed, whether fixed glass, tilt, or tilt-and-turn. For example, whether there should be a mullion in the middle of the double casement windows, and the type of glazing, like frosted glass in the bathroom, as well as the barrier-free access to the terrace...
Of course, we also discussed aluminum windows or uPVC, wood/aluminum, and the color options. The smallest detail was the handles.
Our front door is a different size than the windows – wider and taller. But that’s part of moving in.
I would assign your view about the windows to the general contractor’s architect. After all, they are generally responsible for matters like this. And it should have been clearly established in the first meeting who is responsible for what within the company and during the construction process!
R.Hotzenplotz schrieb:
At least the three balcony doors should have been planned and installed with the same dimensions as the left door! By the way, in https://www.hausbau-forum.de/threads/grundrissentwurf-für-220m-Einfamilienhaus.24702/page-65 #388 they actually were like that.
Furthermore, I seem to recall that originally there was much more variation on the garden facade on the ground floor (GF) level.
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R.Hotzenplotz15 Jul 2018 16:5711ant, that’s not enough to defend the planner’s work.
Here, we would have had those narrow glass panels across the entire front. In hindsight, it might have been better if, given the current shell dimensions, only the utility room had a door and the other three sections were fixed with wider glass panels.
I don’t remember if there was any disruption on the garden-facing side before.
Let’s see what else turns up. The kitchen will need to be redesigned as well. Most likely, the wall cabinets will be removed and either a wall vent or a ceiling vent under a dropped ceiling will be installed. It’ll work out. I’ve moved past the idea of selling the place again for now.
Here, we would have had those narrow glass panels across the entire front. In hindsight, it might have been better if, given the current shell dimensions, only the utility room had a door and the other three sections were fixed with wider glass panels.
I don’t remember if there was any disruption on the garden-facing side before.
Let’s see what else turns up. The kitchen will need to be redesigned as well. Most likely, the wall cabinets will be removed and either a wall vent or a ceiling vent under a dropped ceiling will be installed. It’ll work out. I’ve moved past the idea of selling the place again for now.
R.Hotzenplotz schrieb:
That’s not enough to defend the planner’s reputation. Well, somehow the standardization of measurements must have happened (dressing room - bathroom - total house width - some kind of magical triangle, I guess).
R.Hotzenplotz schrieb:
For now, I’ve changed my mind about selling the place again. *Chin up* *Thumbs up*
and as I already said: I definitely won’t buy it from you anyway.
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R.Hotzenplotz15 Jul 2018 17:1511ant schrieb:
Well, somehow the standardization of the dimensions had to happen (walk-in closet – bathroom – overall house width – some kind of magical triangle, basically).That’s a simple explanation. The utility room had to be made wider because of the secondary escape route requirement. This wasn’t discussed openly but can only be seen in the planning documents.
The fixed panel replacing the balcony door in the walk-in closet was our choice. We felt it made little sense to install another door there and incur additional costs.
Everything is better than balcony doors in the bedroom and bathroom – whether it’s the fixed panel or the utility room door. But enough discussion. It will take its course, and the outcome must be accepted. End of story.
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R.Hotzenplotz22 Jul 2018 19:11I have a clarification meeting with the general contractor tomorrow. I reviewed the process again to see which points might still come up. I came across the exterior plaster. Attached is the relevant excerpt from the scope of work description.
Should I perhaps ask specifically which color will be used and possibly order a higher-quality paint for an additional cost? For example, Sto Lotusan?
Or can one already expect sufficient quality in the paint based on the scope of work description and applicable standards?
Should I perhaps ask specifically which color will be used and possibly order a higher-quality paint for an additional cost? For example, Sto Lotusan?
Or can one already expect sufficient quality in the paint based on the scope of work description and applicable standards?
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