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Has anyone here already looked into the installation options for dishwasher fronts in the new Metod kitchen system? I have spent some time researching this topic and would like to share my current findings with you:
As I understand it, IKEA now offers the option in Metod to have the dishwasher fronts divided, so they appear as if the dishwasher has multiple drawers. Alternatively, you can install a continuous door as before. This can also be selected in the online planner, which will then display the desired front layout.
Additionally, I found out that Metod requires a special mechanism where the dishwasher fronts slide along rails attached to the dishwasher door. I think it works similarly to the sliding doors on refrigerators.
What isn’t clear to me yet is whether this special sliding mechanism is mandatory with Metod, or if you can still mount the front fixed directly to the dishwasher door as before. Does this have something to do with the different plinth height between Metod and Faktum?
If you want to attach multiple partial fronts to the dishwasher door, you need the Vaglig (20250663) product. This consists of two rails that hold the partial fronts together. But as far as I understand, this does not include the sliding mechanism itself.
For the sliding mechanism, you then need either Resonlig (50248348) or Behjälplig (50242426). The difference between these two seems to be that they fit different dishwasher models (Resonlig for Skinande, Rengöra, and LAGAN; Behjälplig for Hjälpsam). However, I have not yet figured out which one is needed for a non-IKEA dishwasher.
There is also Ersättare (00250664), which appears to be an installation solution for semi-integrated dishwashers. Since IKEA does not offer semi-integrated appliances in their range, Ersättare is probably designed specifically for non-IKEA models that you want to install in Metod. I have also looked at the installation instructions for Ersättare, but some things are still unclear to me:
As I understand it, the lower part of the front must be a partial front with a height of 20cm (8 inches), which is hinged in such a way that it flips open when the dishwasher door is opened. Does this mean that a continuous front is not possible with semi-integrated dishwashers???
Additionally, the instructions state that the upper partial front, also 20cm (8 inches) high, must be cut to size depending on the dishwasher’s trim height. I assume this would only apply to fronts without embossed patterns, because if, for example, I cut a Lidingö front (which has an embossed pattern) in the middle at 20cm (8 inches), I would be cutting through the design?
Since I want to install an existing dishwasher with a semi-integrated front in my new Metod kitchen with Lidingö/Bodbyn fronts, I am currently puzzled about how the installation should actually look.
Since Metod will be available in Austria from April 1st, I will definitely ask IKEA then.
Does anyone already know the answers to my questions?
Best regards
Sektionschef
Has anyone here already looked into the installation options for dishwasher fronts in the new Metod kitchen system? I have spent some time researching this topic and would like to share my current findings with you:
As I understand it, IKEA now offers the option in Metod to have the dishwasher fronts divided, so they appear as if the dishwasher has multiple drawers. Alternatively, you can install a continuous door as before. This can also be selected in the online planner, which will then display the desired front layout.
Additionally, I found out that Metod requires a special mechanism where the dishwasher fronts slide along rails attached to the dishwasher door. I think it works similarly to the sliding doors on refrigerators.
What isn’t clear to me yet is whether this special sliding mechanism is mandatory with Metod, or if you can still mount the front fixed directly to the dishwasher door as before. Does this have something to do with the different plinth height between Metod and Faktum?
If you want to attach multiple partial fronts to the dishwasher door, you need the Vaglig (20250663) product. This consists of two rails that hold the partial fronts together. But as far as I understand, this does not include the sliding mechanism itself.
For the sliding mechanism, you then need either Resonlig (50248348) or Behjälplig (50242426). The difference between these two seems to be that they fit different dishwasher models (Resonlig for Skinande, Rengöra, and LAGAN; Behjälplig for Hjälpsam). However, I have not yet figured out which one is needed for a non-IKEA dishwasher.
There is also Ersättare (00250664), which appears to be an installation solution for semi-integrated dishwashers. Since IKEA does not offer semi-integrated appliances in their range, Ersättare is probably designed specifically for non-IKEA models that you want to install in Metod. I have also looked at the installation instructions for Ersättare, but some things are still unclear to me:
As I understand it, the lower part of the front must be a partial front with a height of 20cm (8 inches), which is hinged in such a way that it flips open when the dishwasher door is opened. Does this mean that a continuous front is not possible with semi-integrated dishwashers???
Additionally, the instructions state that the upper partial front, also 20cm (8 inches) high, must be cut to size depending on the dishwasher’s trim height. I assume this would only apply to fronts without embossed patterns, because if, for example, I cut a Lidingö front (which has an embossed pattern) in the middle at 20cm (8 inches), I would be cutting through the design?
Since I want to install an existing dishwasher with a semi-integrated front in my new Metod kitchen with Lidingö/Bodbyn fronts, I am currently puzzled about how the installation should actually look.
Since Metod will be available in Austria from April 1st, I will definitely ask IKEA then.
Does anyone already know the answers to my questions?
Best regards
Sektionschef
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Antje_36221 Jul 2016 11:43Who hasn’t had the problem with a dishwasher that some glasses are just too tall and no longer fit inside? A cutlery drawer reduces the height even further. That’s why I would always choose a large-capacity dishwasher (XXL) if it fits into the kitchen.
If you don’t want to choose an IKEA appliance because of some negative reviews about washing and drying performance, I don’t understand why you would buy a device from the same manufacturer labeled AEG.
The ideal choice would be a BSH large-capacity dishwasher with a Vario hinge or an XXL model from Miele. However, these don’t fit the budget if it must have a cutlery drawer.
An alternative is a tall dishwasher with the front panel installed with an overhang at the top. But in this case, the kitchen plinth has to be adjusted to 9 cm (3.5 inches). Would this be acceptable for €473 including delivery?What exactly is the difference between large-capacity dishwashers and standard dishwashers? How many more place settings do they hold?
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IKEA-Experte1 Jul 2016 14:12There is an additional 5 cm (2 inches) of height available. The number of place settings remains the same.
When buying a new dishwasher for the METOD kitchen, the question of whether to choose a large-capacity dishwasher basically does not arise. If you don’t choose one, you risk problems during installation.
When buying a new dishwasher for the METOD kitchen, the question of whether to choose a large-capacity dishwasher basically does not arise. If you don’t choose one, you risk problems during installation.
Hello, I’m about to purchase a dishwasher soon. I know that a Siemens SX76P030EU or a Bosch SBE63N20EU will work without any issues. But what about AEG models with an 81.5 cm (32 inches) height and a variable hinge (called “PerfectFit” there)? Is that still possible if you install a panel on the top inside?
My preferred model, the AEG FAV2WBVI1P, has better features than the Siemens and Bosch models mentioned above and costs a bit less. Of course, it also has the variable hinge / PerfectFit.
If I do end up choosing a BSH appliance, is there a reason to favor either the Siemens SX76P030EU or Bosch SBE63N20EU, for example due to better features?
I’m not a “fanboy” of either brand, but the user reviews I’ve seen seem generally negative on both sides (which makes sense since satisfied customers tend to be less vocal). That said, there seems to be a slightly more negative trend with AEG.
My preferred model, the AEG FAV2WBVI1P, has better features than the Siemens and Bosch models mentioned above and costs a bit less. Of course, it also has the variable hinge / PerfectFit.
If I do end up choosing a BSH appliance, is there a reason to favor either the Siemens SX76P030EU or Bosch SBE63N20EU, for example due to better features?
I’m not a “fanboy” of either brand, but the user reviews I’ve seen seem generally negative on both sides (which makes sense since satisfied customers tend to be less vocal). That said, there seems to be a slightly more negative trend with AEG.
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IKEA-Experte10 Jul 2016 19:42The AEG with Perfect Fit can be adjusted to a height of 88 cm (35 inches) and does not require any additions at the top.
If you decide to go with AEG, please share your experience with the appliance.
If you decide to go with AEG, please share your experience with the appliance.
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nachtvogel18 Aug 2016 03:38When you buy a new dishwasher for the METOD kitchen, the question of whether it should be a large-capacity dishwasher basically doesn’t arise. If you don’t choose one, you’ll run into problems during installation.Why? Even Ikea doesn’t offer XXL models.
This is probably only an issue if you use third-party appliances.
I have to check again tomorrow because it comes with higher adjustable feet.
My husband was already wondering what those are for.
(We installed the dishwasher in the tall cabinet.)
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nachtvogel18 Aug 2016 23:43It is only a standard 81.8 cm (32 inches) high.
Product dimensions
Width: 59.6 cm (23.5 inches)
Depth: 55.0 cm (22 inches)
Height: 81.8 cm (32 inches)
Cable length: 150 cm (59 inches)
Weight: 38.62 kg (85 lbs)
Like the
Bosch SBV69N70EU dishwasher, energy rating: A
Height 86.5 cm (34 inches)
Width 59.8 cm (23.5 inches)
Depth with door open 120.5 cm (47 inches)
Miele fully integrated built-in dishwasher G 6577 SCVi XXL, A, 9.7 liters, 14 place settings
Appliance dimensions H/W/D (cm): 84.5 x 59.8 x 57 (33 x 23.5 x 22.5 inches)
Siemens SX65P082EU stainless steel built-in dishwasher, fully integrated, 60 cm, A
Height 86.50 cm (34 inches)
So where exactly is the size difference in installation for a so-called XXL dishwasher that has the same external dimensions as a standard model?
Most XXL dishwashers, however, have a standard installation height of 86.5 cm (34 inches).
They are therefore taller.
So make sure to check carefully and don’t rely solely on the XXL label.
Product dimensions
Width: 59.6 cm (23.5 inches)
Depth: 55.0 cm (22 inches)
Height: 81.8 cm (32 inches)
Cable length: 150 cm (59 inches)
Weight: 38.62 kg (85 lbs)
Like the
Bosch SBV69N70EU dishwasher, energy rating: A
Height 86.5 cm (34 inches)
Width 59.8 cm (23.5 inches)
Depth with door open 120.5 cm (47 inches)
Miele fully integrated built-in dishwasher G 6577 SCVi XXL, A, 9.7 liters, 14 place settings
Appliance dimensions H/W/D (cm): 84.5 x 59.8 x 57 (33 x 23.5 x 22.5 inches)
Siemens SX65P082EU stainless steel built-in dishwasher, fully integrated, 60 cm, A
Height 86.50 cm (34 inches)
So where exactly is the size difference in installation for a so-called XXL dishwasher that has the same external dimensions as a standard model?
Most XXL dishwashers, however, have a standard installation height of 86.5 cm (34 inches).
They are therefore taller.
So make sure to check carefully and don’t rely solely on the XXL label.
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