ᐅ Floor plan design shortly before submitting the building permit application

Created on: 2 Oct 2017 23:25
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R.Hotzenplotz
Hello everyone!

As some users have requested before, I’m now starting a new thread with the current planning of our detached house, which is about to be finalized.

These are the preliminary drawings for the building permit / planning permission application, and I have one last chance to review them and point out any issues.

It still seems to me that there is less than 1.20m (4 feet) of space between the two wardrobes in the dressing room. Or am I seeing this wrong? Apparently, the rooms on the left and right were overlooked and not adjusted accordingly.

Two Velux ceiling spotlights are still planned to illuminate the upper floor hallway.

In the basement, on the right side in the upper room, a window similar to the one on the left basement side is an option.

We still haven’t decided on the T30 fire-rated door to the garage, even though it is shown in the plans. Most likely, for safety reasons and the limited use of the kitchen at the other end of the house, we will eventually forgo it.

User 11ant pointed out that the right window in child’s room 2 is suboptimally positioned. However, this could still be changed after submitting the building permit / planning permission application. Our architect thinks moving the window to the left would negatively affect the house’s exterior appearance. We’ll have to see about that.

Grundriss Kellergeschoss mit 3 Kellerräumen, Abstellraum, Flur, Haustechnik und Treppe.


Grundriss eines Hauses mit Keller, Flur KG, Haustechnik KG, Abstellraum KG und Treppen


Grundriss eines Hauses: Garage, Büro, Garderobe, Diele, WC, Küche, Wohn-/Essbereich.


Grundriss Dachgeschoss: Schlafzimmer, Ankleide, Bad, Dusche, zwei Kinderzimmer, Flur HWR Dachterrasse


Technischer Grundriss: Zentraler, ungenutzter DG-Bereich (193 m²) mit umlaufenden Dachschrägen.


Schnitt durch mehrstöckiges Wohnhaus mit Keller, Treppe, Dachkonstruktion und Maßlinien.


Moderne Wohnhausansicht: zweigeschossiges Gebäude mit Garage links und großen Fenstern.


Architektonischer Haus-Elevationsplan: Keller bis Dachgeschoss, Dach, Fenster, Geländeprofil.


Moderne zweigeschossige Hausansicht mit Flachdach, Balkonen, großen Fenstern und Garage.


Zweistöckiges Haus mit dunkler Fassade, grauem Dach, Balkon rechts und Garten mit Bäumen.
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Nordlys
14 Apr 2018 17:44
Are you aware that a fire-resistant steel door costs around 230 euros? Including the frame and handles.
truce14 Apr 2018 18:24
Nordlys schrieb:
Are you aware that a fire-resistant steel door costs around 230 euros? Including the frame and handles.
And with official installation, it’s almost double that..

And if you don’t just want a T30 door, but one with 1.3 insulation or even better, you’re looking at 500–600 euros.. Just for the door.

And if you then need RC2 security rating plus multi-point locking with external control, you quickly end up in the thousand-euro range..

Unfortunately, that’s just how it is..
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Alex85
14 Apr 2018 18:39
Still crazy expensive for an old connecting door from the garage to the house.
truce14 Apr 2018 18:59
Alex85 schrieb:
Still unbelievably expensive for a simple connecting door from the garage into the house.
I honestly find it even more extreme with front doors..

People are sometimes willing to spend 5000€ there, even though the chance of a break-in is probably very low..
And for the sake of appearance, a door costing 1000€ would do just as well....
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Nordlys
14 Apr 2018 22:30
Yvonne asks if he can still be helped? I think this question is quite justified. We are talking about a door between a locked garage and the house, right? We are talking about fire resistance, yes? We are talking about 3,500 euros, right? Even if my door with installation costs 400 euros, it does the job it’s supposed to do in that location. And he would be helped with 2,900 euros, which he could use to spend a nice week in Crete with his loved one or whoever, not in the cheapest accommodation. Karsten
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R.Hotzenplotz
15 Apr 2018 00:48
However, the door must not only be fire-resistant – which would be cheaper, according to the architect – but it also needs to be smoke-resistant.

Comparing a €400 (about $435) door with an RC2-rated door including alarm functions doesn’t help me. Even if such a door were permitted, it wouldn’t be practical, as this critical point requires a high level of security for our subjective sense of safety.

Of course, you could do without the RC2 rating on the door and instead secure the garage door and gates with RC 2, 3, 4, or whatever else, but I strongly doubt that is more economical. I’ll discuss this again with my wife on Sunday. However, I expect that, considering the costs, we will forgo the door. Even a door without any extras like alarm system integration (except for RC 2) is quoted by the supplier at over €2,000 (about $2,170). To be honest, I also don’t feel comfortable with two separate entrances each having its own alarm system controls. I can’t really explain why, but that’s how it is.

Therefore, I assume that the door issue is settled.