ᐅ Floor plan design shortly before submitting the building permit application
Created on: 2 Oct 2017 23:25
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R.Hotzenplotz
Hello everyone!
As some users have requested before, I’m now starting a new thread with the current planning of our detached house, which is about to be finalized.
These are the preliminary drawings for the building permit / planning permission application, and I have one last chance to review them and point out any issues.
It still seems to me that there is less than 1.20m (4 feet) of space between the two wardrobes in the dressing room. Or am I seeing this wrong? Apparently, the rooms on the left and right were overlooked and not adjusted accordingly.
Two Velux ceiling spotlights are still planned to illuminate the upper floor hallway.
In the basement, on the right side in the upper room, a window similar to the one on the left basement side is an option.
We still haven’t decided on the T30 fire-rated door to the garage, even though it is shown in the plans. Most likely, for safety reasons and the limited use of the kitchen at the other end of the house, we will eventually forgo it.
User 11ant pointed out that the right window in child’s room 2 is suboptimally positioned. However, this could still be changed after submitting the building permit / planning permission application. Our architect thinks moving the window to the left would negatively affect the house’s exterior appearance. We’ll have to see about that.
As some users have requested before, I’m now starting a new thread with the current planning of our detached house, which is about to be finalized.
These are the preliminary drawings for the building permit / planning permission application, and I have one last chance to review them and point out any issues.
It still seems to me that there is less than 1.20m (4 feet) of space between the two wardrobes in the dressing room. Or am I seeing this wrong? Apparently, the rooms on the left and right were overlooked and not adjusted accordingly.
Two Velux ceiling spotlights are still planned to illuminate the upper floor hallway.
In the basement, on the right side in the upper room, a window similar to the one on the left basement side is an option.
We still haven’t decided on the T30 fire-rated door to the garage, even though it is shown in the plans. Most likely, for safety reasons and the limited use of the kitchen at the other end of the house, we will eventually forgo it.
User 11ant pointed out that the right window in child’s room 2 is suboptimally positioned. However, this could still be changed after submitting the building permit / planning permission application. Our architect thinks moving the window to the left would negatively affect the house’s exterior appearance. We’ll have to see about that.
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R.Hotzenplotz19 Sep 2018 21:21Fuchur schrieb:
Reading all this, it’s easy to lose all motivation to build. I’m also crossing my fingers that I’ll be done soon. As a layperson, you’re completely at the mercy of everything, and you can never schedule enough expert inspection appointments. Now I have to call again tomorrow to check if he can approve the plastering and how the stair transitions look. The other issue needs to be handled by a specialized installer expert. It’s just so frustrating.
Above all, we are falling further behind schedule. My interior fitters can’t start because they don’t want to paint as long as the drywall ceiling isn’t installed. That keeps getting delayed because not even a blower door test has been performed yet. That test is scheduled for at least two weeks from now, and only after that will the drywall ceiling be installed. Before then, no tiles can be laid due to the screed drying process. It’s all just so annoying.
Mainly, they want to make it easy on themselves by sticking to the nine-month construction period. However, they only manage to do so because the subcontracted trades are excluded. The nine months should have been achievable even if everything was included there. This will likely be a case for a lawyer to precisely quantify the exact days of delay that can be formally claimed.
We didn’t use any mesh on the concrete ceiling either, just smoothed the joints. We didn’t want to use fleece. What about you? That would usually be the painter’s responsibility anyway.
I find the stair transitions neater than ours. What’s supposed to go there – will there be a wooden cladding around it later? Or will it just be plastered? If so, something is definitely missing, since the plaster won’t hold properly on the polystyrene.
I can’t say much about the plaster – our Q2 finish was very tidy; of course, you could see some wiping marks here and there, but we didn’t have any dents or similar defects.
Did you find it acceptable or very noticeable?
I can’t comment on the ventilation, but the heating pipes lying there like that definitely isn’t right. There needs to be insulation between the pipe and the door, obviously. The question is how much you can still bend them now.
I find the stair transitions neater than ours. What’s supposed to go there – will there be a wooden cladding around it later? Or will it just be plastered? If so, something is definitely missing, since the plaster won’t hold properly on the polystyrene.
I can’t say much about the plaster – our Q2 finish was very tidy; of course, you could see some wiping marks here and there, but we didn’t have any dents or similar defects.
Did you find it acceptable or very noticeable?
I can’t comment on the ventilation, but the heating pipes lying there like that definitely isn’t right. There needs to be insulation between the pipe and the door, obviously. The question is how much you can still bend them now.
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R.Hotzenplotz19 Sep 2018 21:32Müllerin schrieb:
I find the stair transitions neater than ours. What is going there—will there be a wooden cladding added later? Or will it just be plastered? Because if it’s only plastered, something’s missing; that won’t hold properly on the styrofoam.The painter has been commissioned to install painter’s fleece inside the house. He says it’s not ready for painting as it is and is asking how to proceed next… I can’t really say more. I’ve now asked him again to specify exactly what he requires, because otherwise I just can’t keep up. As a layperson, I feel like a pure ping-pong ball between all the companies. I just find it terrible.
Müllerin schrieb:
I can’t really comment on the plaster — our Q2 finish was very neat. Of course, you could see some trowel marks here and there, but we didn’t have any dents or similar defects.
Did you find them acceptable or very noticeable?Visually, I only find the plaster splashes on the precast concrete ceiling noticeable. The property agent also complained that the ceiling is no longer smooth because of this and that it’s not his job to clean the ceiling. This is not just an aesthetic issue, but a structural one since it’s no longer flat. Now I am supposed to instruct the general contractor to remove all of that plaster.
Otherwise, the dents aren’t immediately visible to the eye. You have to rub your hand over them or check with a straightedge. He says to achieve a Q3 finish, he would have to apply a very thin layer, but that’s not possible here because of the dents; that’s why he wants to sand it down and charge extra for it. I have no idea — maybe he’s just messing with me. Probably only an expert can clarify this, because otherwise both parties will keep denying responsibility, and I can’t assess it either.
Müllerin schrieb:
I can’t comment on the ventilation, but the way the heating pipes are laid obviously isn’t acceptable. There needs to be insulation between the pipe and the door, obviously. The question is how much they can still bend it now.You can’t bend that—it’s a very, very stiff material. I have walked on it and touched it. The tile installer said today that the only way to fix it would be to break out all the screed and redo it.
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R.Hotzenplotz19 Sep 2018 21:43blackm88 schrieb:
The screed was later broken up so that the window would fit like that?!Apparently, yes.
The worst part is that everything regarding the planned patio door replacement was known long before the underfloor heating and screed were installed.
R.Hotzenplotz schrieb:
simply bent more or less and also rest directly against the window frame. Bending is not an issue, in my opinion, as long as the minimum bending radii are respected. However, I would also have some more screed chiseled away to gain a bit more space for rerouting.
R.Hotzenplotz schrieb:
The interior fitter for tiles and painting was here today and asked me why the stair transitions weren’t finished. You removed tiling and painting, meaning your own trades? What surface condition was agreed upon at the handover between screed and painter? Painter-ready handover/acceptance? If the screed installer/the main contractor does not deliver a painter-ready surface, and your painter expected or offered a painter-ready acceptance, then you need to handle the difference.
R.Hotzenplotz schrieb:
Then he said he didn’t find the Q2 plaster acceptable. He showed me dents with a straightedge and said that before applying Q3 plaster, he has to sand all the walls, which is actually not his responsibility and should be billed extra. Why would someone else do Q3 after Q2? Otherwise, see above—interface: how is the handover and acceptance arranged?
R.Hotzenplotz schrieb:
Then he asked why the work on the concrete ceiling was done without mesh reinforcement? I have now patched and painted several ceiling joints within my circle of friends. I have neither seen nor applied any mesh there.
R.Hotzenplotz schrieb:
Above all, they want to keep it easy to meet the nine-month construction period. However, they only manage this because the owner’s trades are separated out. As the examples above clearly show, it is crucial to carefully consider and regulate the exclusion of trades from the general contractor’s scope.
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