ᐅ Floor plan design shortly before submitting the building permit application

Created on: 2 Oct 2017 23:25
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R.Hotzenplotz
Hello everyone!

As some users have requested before, I’m now starting a new thread with the current planning of our detached house, which is about to be finalized.

These are the preliminary drawings for the building permit / planning permission application, and I have one last chance to review them and point out any issues.

It still seems to me that there is less than 1.20m (4 feet) of space between the two wardrobes in the dressing room. Or am I seeing this wrong? Apparently, the rooms on the left and right were overlooked and not adjusted accordingly.

Two Velux ceiling spotlights are still planned to illuminate the upper floor hallway.

In the basement, on the right side in the upper room, a window similar to the one on the left basement side is an option.

We still haven’t decided on the T30 fire-rated door to the garage, even though it is shown in the plans. Most likely, for safety reasons and the limited use of the kitchen at the other end of the house, we will eventually forgo it.

User 11ant pointed out that the right window in child’s room 2 is suboptimally positioned. However, this could still be changed after submitting the building permit / planning permission application. Our architect thinks moving the window to the left would negatively affect the house’s exterior appearance. We’ll have to see about that.

Grundriss Kellergeschoss mit 3 Kellerräumen, Abstellraum, Flur, Haustechnik und Treppe.


Grundriss eines Hauses mit Keller, Flur KG, Haustechnik KG, Abstellraum KG und Treppen


Grundriss eines Hauses: Garage, Büro, Garderobe, Diele, WC, Küche, Wohn-/Essbereich.


Grundriss Dachgeschoss: Schlafzimmer, Ankleide, Bad, Dusche, zwei Kinderzimmer, Flur HWR Dachterrasse


Technischer Grundriss: Zentraler, ungenutzter DG-Bereich (193 m²) mit umlaufenden Dachschrägen.


Schnitt durch mehrstöckiges Wohnhaus mit Keller, Treppe, Dachkonstruktion und Maßlinien.


Moderne Wohnhausansicht: zweigeschossiges Gebäude mit Garage links und großen Fenstern.


Architektonischer Haus-Elevationsplan: Keller bis Dachgeschoss, Dach, Fenster, Geländeprofil.


Moderne zweigeschossige Hausansicht mit Flachdach, Balkonen, großen Fenstern und Garage.


Zweistöckiges Haus mit dunkler Fassade, grauem Dach, Balkon rechts und Garten mit Bäumen.
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ypg
19 Sep 2018 23:26
R.Hotzenplotz schrieb:
Above all, they want to make it easy for themselves to meet the construction period of nine months. However, they only manage this because the owner’s trades are excluded. The nine months would still have to be met if everything were included there. This will be a case for the lawyer to accurately quantify the exact days of delay that can ultimately be claimed.

That’s where the general contractor is excluded: the construction period is always counted without owner’s trades.
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R.Hotzenplotz
19 Sep 2018 23:30
Then it becomes interesting how to assess this when the contract had not yet separated the trades. Separating them was only listed as an option, which we exercised later.
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MayrCh
20 Sep 2018 10:12
Bookstar schrieb:
You definitely shouldn’t be able to see it with the naked eye.

I have to disagree again. To my layman’s knowledge, neither Q2 nor Q3 finish levels have specific requirements regarding appearance and flatness. However, I’m happy to be corrected.
R.Hotzenplotz schrieb:
That’s exactly what the painter’s contract states.

It only mentions drywall panels and gypsum boards. Does that even apply to simple plaster on a wall? Did you exclude the interior finishing entirely? How is the handover condition defined between the builder and owner-supplied subcontractors?

Regarding the construction schedule: I think the builder will cite your subsequent change to the execution plans (modifying the terrace window) as a reason if there is a delay. Delays caused by subcontractors will be considered in any case.
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Bookstar
20 Sep 2018 10:14
Maybe I’m approaching this the wrong way. In most plastering jobs, this Q2 or Q3 isn’t even specified. Yet the walls are straight and have no dents. Otherwise, that would be a disaster, wouldn’t it?
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MayrCh
20 Sep 2018 10:35
Bookstar schrieb:
Most plastering contracts do not include Q2 or Q3.

If no other quality level is agreed upon, specified, or intended during execution, Q2 applies. This can be achieved with "standard craftsmanship techniques."
Bookstar schrieb:
Still, the walls are straight and without dents.

Perfectly straight walls without dents do not exist. Deviations occur within and beyond the permitted tolerances, see DIN 18202.
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Curly
20 Sep 2018 10:51
At our place, the stair sides were covered with drywall boards by the drywall installer. He did this along with the ceilings on the upper floor, and afterwards, everything was filled and sanded smooth.

Best regards
Sabine