ᐅ Floor plan design shortly before submitting the building permit application
Created on: 2 Oct 2017 23:25
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R.Hotzenplotz
Hello everyone!
As some users have requested before, I’m now starting a new thread with the current planning of our detached house, which is about to be finalized.
These are the preliminary drawings for the building permit / planning permission application, and I have one last chance to review them and point out any issues.
It still seems to me that there is less than 1.20m (4 feet) of space between the two wardrobes in the dressing room. Or am I seeing this wrong? Apparently, the rooms on the left and right were overlooked and not adjusted accordingly.
Two Velux ceiling spotlights are still planned to illuminate the upper floor hallway.
In the basement, on the right side in the upper room, a window similar to the one on the left basement side is an option.
We still haven’t decided on the T30 fire-rated door to the garage, even though it is shown in the plans. Most likely, for safety reasons and the limited use of the kitchen at the other end of the house, we will eventually forgo it.
User 11ant pointed out that the right window in child’s room 2 is suboptimally positioned. However, this could still be changed after submitting the building permit / planning permission application. Our architect thinks moving the window to the left would negatively affect the house’s exterior appearance. We’ll have to see about that.
As some users have requested before, I’m now starting a new thread with the current planning of our detached house, which is about to be finalized.
These are the preliminary drawings for the building permit / planning permission application, and I have one last chance to review them and point out any issues.
It still seems to me that there is less than 1.20m (4 feet) of space between the two wardrobes in the dressing room. Or am I seeing this wrong? Apparently, the rooms on the left and right were overlooked and not adjusted accordingly.
Two Velux ceiling spotlights are still planned to illuminate the upper floor hallway.
In the basement, on the right side in the upper room, a window similar to the one on the left basement side is an option.
We still haven’t decided on the T30 fire-rated door to the garage, even though it is shown in the plans. Most likely, for safety reasons and the limited use of the kitchen at the other end of the house, we will eventually forgo it.
User 11ant pointed out that the right window in child’s room 2 is suboptimally positioned. However, this could still be changed after submitting the building permit / planning permission application. Our architect thinks moving the window to the left would negatively affect the house’s exterior appearance. We’ll have to see about that.
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R.Hotzenplotz17 Jun 2018 16:52Alex85 schrieb:
Was the position agreed upon?I think it can be inferred from the detailed planning; however, it doesn’t make any sense to me. As I understand it, the water line is routed up there, but having the connection come out of the wall next to the washing machine instead of behind it seems illogical. Apart from that, I agree with you; there are more important issues.
I definitely want to contact a new expert tomorrow, but I have no idea which one. Without personal recommendations, I’d rather not proceed, so this will probably be another shot in the dark.
By the way, the heating valve will now be installed on the opposite side, that is, at the top right of the plan.
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j.bautsch18 Jun 2018 08:02For us, the connection is also next to the washing machine, simply because the pipes were already installed in the adjacent guest bathroom. The washing machine is in the utility room, so I don’t mind a visible connection there. On the contrary, I think it’s great that I can check the connection anytime (for leaks, etc.) and that I don’t have to move the washing machine to unplug it.
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R.Hotzenplotz18 Jun 2018 11:10The building authority has now confirmed how incorrect the assessor’s statement regarding the windows was.
The legally correct response I can provide you here will not be what you want to hear: I am not required to examine this in the simplified procedure, especially not for a low-rise single-family house.
In the simplified approval process for low-rise buildings, the architect is responsible for fire protection. They sign off on this when submitting the building application.
For your project, there were no objections to the architects’ proposal, so I did not issue any comments concerning the escape routes.
To clarify things a bit, I will now provide you with a practical answer.
According to the building code NW, every floor with habitable rooms must have a second escape route.
This is considered secure if there is a window opening with a clear width of 90cm (35 inches) and a height of 120cm (47 inches). The sill of this opening may be up to 120cm (47 inches) high, and if the window is located in a sloped roof, it can be up to 120cm (47 inches) away from the exterior wall (such as a dormer or skylight).
It is important that from there, you can signal to a public area, since these openings are generally not intended for self-rescue.
Although I would have found it more practical to use the child’s bedroom window as the escape route—since from there you could also flee onto the garage roof (or one of the other windows facing the street) and thus stand directly at the street—the proposed solution is also acceptable.
It is possible to independently escape onto the roof terrace and, since you are already outdoors there, signal for help and wait until the fire department arrives with a ladder. If this seems unsafe, it could also be arranged to access the garden from the roof terrace. However, the building code does not require a second structural escape route for buildings of this class.
Since, according to building code §40 paragraph 4, only one window is necessary, and you even offer an improvement in the form of a door opening without a sill to overcome—allowing for partial self-rescue—I do not understand your expert’s concerns.
The cited DIN merely serves as guidance during construction to determine the ratio between the door opening size and the door to be installed.
The fact that the clear opening of a patio door is smaller than that of a standard apartment door with the same rough opening dimensions is common due to the threshold and upper frame and does not affect its qualification as a second escape route.
“Emergency exit doors” roughly refer to doors in assembly halls, shops, or similar facilities, but not as a second escape route in a one- or two-family house. I assume your primary escape route, the front door, meets the applicable standards.
Frankly, I’d just like to cut to the chase.
The legally correct response I can provide you here will not be what you want to hear: I am not required to examine this in the simplified procedure, especially not for a low-rise single-family house.
In the simplified approval process for low-rise buildings, the architect is responsible for fire protection. They sign off on this when submitting the building application.
For your project, there were no objections to the architects’ proposal, so I did not issue any comments concerning the escape routes.
To clarify things a bit, I will now provide you with a practical answer.
According to the building code NW, every floor with habitable rooms must have a second escape route.
This is considered secure if there is a window opening with a clear width of 90cm (35 inches) and a height of 120cm (47 inches). The sill of this opening may be up to 120cm (47 inches) high, and if the window is located in a sloped roof, it can be up to 120cm (47 inches) away from the exterior wall (such as a dormer or skylight).
It is important that from there, you can signal to a public area, since these openings are generally not intended for self-rescue.
Although I would have found it more practical to use the child’s bedroom window as the escape route—since from there you could also flee onto the garage roof (or one of the other windows facing the street) and thus stand directly at the street—the proposed solution is also acceptable.
It is possible to independently escape onto the roof terrace and, since you are already outdoors there, signal for help and wait until the fire department arrives with a ladder. If this seems unsafe, it could also be arranged to access the garden from the roof terrace. However, the building code does not require a second structural escape route for buildings of this class.
Since, according to building code §40 paragraph 4, only one window is necessary, and you even offer an improvement in the form of a door opening without a sill to overcome—allowing for partial self-rescue—I do not understand your expert’s concerns.
The cited DIN merely serves as guidance during construction to determine the ratio between the door opening size and the door to be installed.
The fact that the clear opening of a patio door is smaller than that of a standard apartment door with the same rough opening dimensions is common due to the threshold and upper frame and does not affect its qualification as a second escape route.
“Emergency exit doors” roughly refer to doors in assembly halls, shops, or similar facilities, but not as a second escape route in a one- or two-family house. I assume your primary escape route, the front door, meets the applicable standards.
Frankly, I’d just like to cut to the chase.
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R.Hotzenplotz18 Jun 2018 12:18haydee schrieb:
Do you want to walk through the construction site again with the expert?Definitely not.
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Sondelgeher1218 Jun 2018 13:44R.Hotzenplotz schrieb:
The inspector’s report arrived today. Considering the hourly rate for the whole process, the report doesn’t seem professional or very useful to me, so that I can work with it further...... few references to standards.....
What exactly is supposed to be done about the moisture in the structural shell? That’s simply normal, isn’t it?
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