Exactly. So the IKEA customer definitely ends up with unnecessary additional costs. Either from the Y-distributor variant (which I had already considered yesterday) or if they keep the strainer and buy the entire rest new. Because just buying a new drain pipe is not possible; a standard one wouldn’t fit into the IKEA pipe!
What a waste of cost and time! And all just because some complete fool at IKEA decided to replace the Atlant with such a completely ridiculous, impractical design! Doesn’t IKEA have any kind of final quality control to test the “great” new products for functionality? Or is it really possible that they want to force customers to buy the more expensive 2-basin siphon? That just can’t be true!
What a waste of cost and time! And all just because some complete fool at IKEA decided to replace the Atlant with such a completely ridiculous, impractical design! Doesn’t IKEA have any kind of final quality control to test the “great” new products for functionality? Or is it really possible that they want to force customers to buy the more expensive 2-basin siphon? That just can’t be true!
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IKEA-Experte21 Dec 2016 11:19Thanks for the post. It may be helpful for some to know that IKEA now offers the set and that the order number is available. If the issue is well known by now, improvements to the siphon might be made in the near future.
If both appliances run at the same time but pump out water at different intervals, no problem occurs, although this does not mean it won’t happen at another time. So you could say it may work fine, but it might not. The cautious person will only operate one machine at a time, while the more risk-tolerant one will take their chances.
Merry Christmas.
If both appliances run at the same time but pump out water at different intervals, no problem occurs, although this does not mean it won’t happen at another time. So you could say it may work fine, but it might not. The cautious person will only operate one machine at a time, while the more risk-tolerant one will take their chances.
Merry Christmas.
I find the solution with the Y-adapter and hose clamps perfect. 90% of kitchens do not need the second connection, so I understand why Ikea left it out. This additional option for customers who specifically ask for it is a nice touch, especially if it is free of charge.
However, I want to clarify the misinformation that a dishwasher and washing machine cannot be operated simultaneously. Even if both appliances finish their programs at the same time and both pumps drain simultaneously, the trap cannot become overloaded. The horizontal outlet has a significantly larger diameter, and the narrowest point at the Y-adapter is very short, so no backflow can occur. Additionally, the trap is vented upwards. Technically, this is not a problem and no appliance will be damaged; the only downside is that you might hear some “gurgling” sounds from the trap area. That said, I estimate that the chance of both appliances draining at exactly the same time is much less than once per month.
I have personally connected both a washing machine and a dishwasher in a basement apartment to a small lifting station, where even more backpressure occurs (because such systems are typically not vented along the stack), and there was no issue there either.
What is important is that the wastewater hoses from the dishwasher and washing machine come from above, although with the Lillviken trap connection point, it is hardly possible to install this Y-adapter the wrong way around anyway.
However, I want to clarify the misinformation that a dishwasher and washing machine cannot be operated simultaneously. Even if both appliances finish their programs at the same time and both pumps drain simultaneously, the trap cannot become overloaded. The horizontal outlet has a significantly larger diameter, and the narrowest point at the Y-adapter is very short, so no backflow can occur. Additionally, the trap is vented upwards. Technically, this is not a problem and no appliance will be damaged; the only downside is that you might hear some “gurgling” sounds from the trap area. That said, I estimate that the chance of both appliances draining at exactly the same time is much less than once per month.
I have personally connected both a washing machine and a dishwasher in a basement apartment to a small lifting station, where even more backpressure occurs (because such systems are typically not vented along the stack), and there was no issue there either.
What is important is that the wastewater hoses from the dishwasher and washing machine come from above, although with the Lillviken trap connection point, it is hardly possible to install this Y-adapter the wrong way around anyway.
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Nicht-Ikea-Fan10 Feb 2017 11:33Hello,
I had the same problem. Only one connection for two machines at the siphon. That’s quite poor from Ikea. It seems a product designer and quality management must have been asleep at the wheel. Otherwise, such an embarrassment is hard to explain. I visited my Ikea again today, and they gave me the same installation kit. It looks like that’s what you get in every Ikea store. Still, it was unnecessary running around for me.
Regards
I had the same problem. Only one connection for two machines at the siphon. That’s quite poor from Ikea. It seems a product designer and quality management must have been asleep at the wheel. Otherwise, such an embarrassment is hard to explain. I visited my Ikea again today, and they gave me the same installation kit. It looks like that’s what you get in every Ikea store. Still, it was unnecessary running around for me.
Regards
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