ᐅ Floor plan design shortly before submitting the building permit application
Created on: 2 Oct 2017 23:25
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R.Hotzenplotz
Hello everyone!
As some users have requested before, I’m now starting a new thread with the current planning of our detached house, which is about to be finalized.
These are the preliminary drawings for the building permit / planning permission application, and I have one last chance to review them and point out any issues.
It still seems to me that there is less than 1.20m (4 feet) of space between the two wardrobes in the dressing room. Or am I seeing this wrong? Apparently, the rooms on the left and right were overlooked and not adjusted accordingly.
Two Velux ceiling spotlights are still planned to illuminate the upper floor hallway.
In the basement, on the right side in the upper room, a window similar to the one on the left basement side is an option.
We still haven’t decided on the T30 fire-rated door to the garage, even though it is shown in the plans. Most likely, for safety reasons and the limited use of the kitchen at the other end of the house, we will eventually forgo it.
User 11ant pointed out that the right window in child’s room 2 is suboptimally positioned. However, this could still be changed after submitting the building permit / planning permission application. Our architect thinks moving the window to the left would negatively affect the house’s exterior appearance. We’ll have to see about that.
As some users have requested before, I’m now starting a new thread with the current planning of our detached house, which is about to be finalized.
These are the preliminary drawings for the building permit / planning permission application, and I have one last chance to review them and point out any issues.
It still seems to me that there is less than 1.20m (4 feet) of space between the two wardrobes in the dressing room. Or am I seeing this wrong? Apparently, the rooms on the left and right were overlooked and not adjusted accordingly.
Two Velux ceiling spotlights are still planned to illuminate the upper floor hallway.
In the basement, on the right side in the upper room, a window similar to the one on the left basement side is an option.
We still haven’t decided on the T30 fire-rated door to the garage, even though it is shown in the plans. Most likely, for safety reasons and the limited use of the kitchen at the other end of the house, we will eventually forgo it.
User 11ant pointed out that the right window in child’s room 2 is suboptimally positioned. However, this could still be changed after submitting the building permit / planning permission application. Our architect thinks moving the window to the left would negatively affect the house’s exterior appearance. We’ll have to see about that.
If done correctly, wood is definitely a great option.
If you inquire, I would definitely mention this and ask how they attach the covering.
In terms of price, the concrete staircase with wood covering (we obtained 6 quotes) would have cost us between 4000 and 6800 € (euros).
Each including installation, risers, and skirting boards!
Without risers, it would have been about 1000 to 1500 € (euros) cheaper.
We have now decided on natural stone.
If you inquire, I would definitely mention this and ask how they attach the covering.
In terms of price, the concrete staircase with wood covering (we obtained 6 quotes) would have cost us between 4000 and 6800 € (euros).
Each including installation, risers, and skirting boards!
Without risers, it would have been about 1000 to 1500 € (euros) cheaper.
We have now decided on natural stone.
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R.Hotzenplotz7 Dec 2017 22:22truce schrieb:
In terms of price, the wooden staircase (we obtained 6 quotes) would have cost us between €4,000 and €6,800. Each quote included risers and baseboards.Now I need to clarify some details. Does the price refer to just one staircase or to the staircases between basement/ground floor and ground floor/first floor?
What was the cost for tiles (and which material price was used)? Or did you not request an alternative for that?
In our cost calculation, the total budget for two flights of stairs is currently €4,000. We still have a budget margin of around €40,000, but I don’t want to spend it all too quickly. You never know what else might come up.
In our case, the stair treads are not installed by the main contractor. The main contractor only constructs the stairs, which according to the contract are concrete stairs. If we were to have a wooden staircase made instead, how would that typically affect the price? I don’t know which of the two types is generally cheaper.
Lastly, the question is what is generally recommended regardless of price: wooden treads on a wooden staircase, or leaving the concrete stairs and applying the desired wooden covering?
R.Hotzenplotz schrieb:
Now I need to clarify a few details. Does the price refer to one staircase or staircases between basement/ground floor and ground floor/upper floor? The price was only for one staircase—from the ground floor to the upper floor.
However, our concrete staircase has two quarter turns.
So, the extra cost was probably due to that compared to a straight staircase.
But I believe that the price for two straight staircases would probably be in the same range as what we paid for a staircase with turns.
R.Hotzenplotz schrieb:
What was the price for tiles (and what material cost)? Or did you not consider an alternative? Unfortunately, I can’t help you with that.
We didn’t consider tiles at all. To us, it somehow felt like a "basement stairway" look because of the grout lines and so on.
Now with natural stone, the stair covering including risers and skirting costs us about 4000 € (€) (roughly, no currency conversion).
The deciding factors for us were, on one hand, a “poor” experience from two friends who had creaky wooden stairs, and a recommendation from acquaintances to use natural stone because of its durability compared to wood.
Visually, though, we actually liked wood a bit better.
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R.Hotzenplotz7 Dec 2017 22:50Understood. You’ve already seen the tile I used on the ground floor linked above. Using something like that as a stair covering as well? I’m not sure.
Maybe we would decorate only the stairs to the upper floor so nicely and keep the stairs to the basement a bit simpler.
Maybe we would decorate only the stairs to the upper floor so nicely and keep the stairs to the basement a bit simpler.
For straight staircases, there might be tiles available that cover the entire step. Unfortunately, this is not possible with spiral stairs, where you have to work with multiple tiles, resulting in grout lines.
An important aspect to clarify for all options is the build-up height. It’s better to allow slightly less and then have the stair builder compensate, rather than being unable to transition from tile to wood later because the tile adds only 1.5 cm (0.6 inch) thickness while the wood adds three cm (1.2 inches).
An important aspect to clarify for all options is the build-up height. It’s better to allow slightly less and then have the stair builder compensate, rather than being unable to transition from tile to wood later because the tile adds only 1.5 cm (0.6 inch) thickness while the wood adds three cm (1.2 inches).
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