ᐅ Installing a Siemens dishwasher in an Ikea Metod kitchen
Created on: 12 Feb 2015 21:19
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Sektionschef
Hello
I also want to install a Siemens dishwasher in my Metod kitchen, so I visited the Siemens showroom in Vienna yesterday for advice.
While I gained some insights, I am not entirely sure if the information from the Siemens consultant is accurate, so I wanted to share all the details here and open the topic for discussion. It would be great if others could also share their experiences.
Yesterday, after I told the consultant the cabinet height (800mm (31.5 inches)) and plinth height (80mm (3 inches)), he showed me a table that indicates whether appliances with heights of 81.5cm (normal) or 86.5cm (XXL) will fit into a particular niche height combined with a certain plinth height.
At the bottom in the legend you can see:
- white fields at 86.5 or light gray fields at 81.5: dishwasher fits directly
- dark gray fields: dishwasher fits only with the Vario hinge
- black fields: dishwasher fits only with the Siemens folding hinge (special accessory).
The table shows a white field at a niche height of 880mm (35 inches) and a plinth height of 80mm (3 inches). According to this, an XXL appliance should fit directly without Vario hinge, meaning the 800mm (31.5 inches) tall front panel can be mounted directly onto the dishwasher door (no additional aids needed).
The consultant said this table applies to all Siemens dishwashers with 60cm (24 inches) width, including fully integrated and semi-integrated models.
However, he also mentioned that even a 5mm (0.2 inch) deviation in the niche height, depending on how the feet of the Metod kitchen are adjusted, can cause problems.
Unfortunately, I only checked the dimensional drawings of the XXL models (86.5cm (34 inches)) without the Vario hinge on the Siemens website after I got home.
What caught my attention is:
The drawing lists the front height as 705–775mm (27.8–30.5 inches), but the table shows 705–800mm (27.8–31.5 inches), which is a difference of 25mm (1 inch)!
The minimum plinth height in the drawing is 90mm (3.5 inches), but the table shows 80mm (3 inches) for the XXL appliance (column 880).
So I wonder how it is possible that the column "880" with a plinth height starting at 80mm is marked white, indicating that every XXL model should fit without a Vario hinge?
Has anyone in this forum already reported that installing an XXL dishwasher without the Vario hinge and without extra supports is not possible?
I will definitely call the consultant to ask about this and point out the inconsistencies between the table and the dimensional drawing.
I’ll share any further findings here.
Best regards
Sektionschef
I also want to install a Siemens dishwasher in my Metod kitchen, so I visited the Siemens showroom in Vienna yesterday for advice.
While I gained some insights, I am not entirely sure if the information from the Siemens consultant is accurate, so I wanted to share all the details here and open the topic for discussion. It would be great if others could also share their experiences.
Yesterday, after I told the consultant the cabinet height (800mm (31.5 inches)) and plinth height (80mm (3 inches)), he showed me a table that indicates whether appliances with heights of 81.5cm (normal) or 86.5cm (XXL) will fit into a particular niche height combined with a certain plinth height.
At the bottom in the legend you can see:
- white fields at 86.5 or light gray fields at 81.5: dishwasher fits directly
- dark gray fields: dishwasher fits only with the Vario hinge
- black fields: dishwasher fits only with the Siemens folding hinge (special accessory).
The table shows a white field at a niche height of 880mm (35 inches) and a plinth height of 80mm (3 inches). According to this, an XXL appliance should fit directly without Vario hinge, meaning the 800mm (31.5 inches) tall front panel can be mounted directly onto the dishwasher door (no additional aids needed).
The consultant said this table applies to all Siemens dishwashers with 60cm (24 inches) width, including fully integrated and semi-integrated models.
However, he also mentioned that even a 5mm (0.2 inch) deviation in the niche height, depending on how the feet of the Metod kitchen are adjusted, can cause problems.
Unfortunately, I only checked the dimensional drawings of the XXL models (86.5cm (34 inches)) without the Vario hinge on the Siemens website after I got home.
What caught my attention is:
The drawing lists the front height as 705–775mm (27.8–30.5 inches), but the table shows 705–800mm (27.8–31.5 inches), which is a difference of 25mm (1 inch)!
The minimum plinth height in the drawing is 90mm (3.5 inches), but the table shows 80mm (3 inches) for the XXL appliance (column 880).
So I wonder how it is possible that the column "880" with a plinth height starting at 80mm is marked white, indicating that every XXL model should fit without a Vario hinge?
Has anyone in this forum already reported that installing an XXL dishwasher without the Vario hinge and without extra supports is not possible?
I will definitely call the consultant to ask about this and point out the inconsistencies between the table and the dimensional drawing.
I’ll share any further findings here.
Best regards
Sektionschef
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Sektionschef18 Feb 2015 20:11I think I will also buy the SX778D01TE. The best offer for Austria is currently around 860 Euro including freight shipping. I prefer to skip all the tinkering with the Behjälplig or Stefan method and just get a suitable device right away. I have to pay about 200 Euro more than for my originally selected device, but then everything will fit. Siemens customer service also assured me that this unit will be compatible with the Ikea kitchen.
Best regards
Sektionschef
Best regards
Sektionschef
My husband has now started attaching the front panel... sort of as a test run for the new one.
Before I get into the topic of “how to upload pictures here,” I just want to quickly say that everything will fit perfectly. The foundation height matches wonderfully. When attaching the front panel, it depends on whether it is a single-piece or multi-piece. Of course, we have a three-piece one.
So first, the individual parts had to be connected...
With a single-piece front, it’s quite easy since everything is well explained, and my husband watched a video using the barcode printed on a template. With our three-piece model, it’s a bit more complicated but definitely doable.
I’ll try to upload photos as soon as possible.
PS: After our test run yesterday, I realized I have never taken such dry dishes out of a dishwasher before. They were lukewarm right after opening. The operation and initial setup were also very simple. So, the appliance is really great.
Before I get into the topic of “how to upload pictures here,” I just want to quickly say that everything will fit perfectly. The foundation height matches wonderfully. When attaching the front panel, it depends on whether it is a single-piece or multi-piece. Of course, we have a three-piece one.
So first, the individual parts had to be connected...
With a single-piece front, it’s quite easy since everything is well explained, and my husband watched a video using the barcode printed on a template. With our three-piece model, it’s a bit more complicated but definitely doable.
I’ll try to upload photos as soon as possible.
PS: After our test run yesterday, I realized I have never taken such dry dishes out of a dishwasher before. They were lukewarm right after opening. The operation and initial setup were also very simple. So, the appliance is really great.
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Hesse.MTK19 Feb 2015 06:40Thank you for the feedback
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Juliette W19 Feb 2015 07:51Thank you as well, I’m really looking forward to it.
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Sektionschef19 Feb 2015 08:43I think we should designate the SX778D01TE as the top-recommended dishwasher for the Metod kitchen.
This way, others won’t have to spend as much time as we did researching different options and can be given a model that fits without issues (except for kitchens with split fronts) and whose owners are satisfied with its cleaning performance.
Best regards,
Sektionschef
This way, others won’t have to spend as much time as we did researching different options and can be given a model that fits without issues (except for kitchens with split fronts) and whose owners are satisfied with its cleaning performance.
Best regards,
Sektionschef
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