ᐅ Installing a Siemens dishwasher in an Ikea Metod kitchen
Created on: 12 Feb 2015 21:19
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Sektionschef
Hello
I also want to install a Siemens dishwasher in my Metod kitchen, so I visited the Siemens showroom in Vienna yesterday for advice.
While I gained some insights, I am not entirely sure if the information from the Siemens consultant is accurate, so I wanted to share all the details here and open the topic for discussion. It would be great if others could also share their experiences.
Yesterday, after I told the consultant the cabinet height (800mm (31.5 inches)) and plinth height (80mm (3 inches)), he showed me a table that indicates whether appliances with heights of 81.5cm (normal) or 86.5cm (XXL) will fit into a particular niche height combined with a certain plinth height.
At the bottom in the legend you can see:
- white fields at 86.5 or light gray fields at 81.5: dishwasher fits directly
- dark gray fields: dishwasher fits only with the Vario hinge
- black fields: dishwasher fits only with the Siemens folding hinge (special accessory).
The table shows a white field at a niche height of 880mm (35 inches) and a plinth height of 80mm (3 inches). According to this, an XXL appliance should fit directly without Vario hinge, meaning the 800mm (31.5 inches) tall front panel can be mounted directly onto the dishwasher door (no additional aids needed).
The consultant said this table applies to all Siemens dishwashers with 60cm (24 inches) width, including fully integrated and semi-integrated models.
However, he also mentioned that even a 5mm (0.2 inch) deviation in the niche height, depending on how the feet of the Metod kitchen are adjusted, can cause problems.
Unfortunately, I only checked the dimensional drawings of the XXL models (86.5cm (34 inches)) without the Vario hinge on the Siemens website after I got home.
What caught my attention is:
The drawing lists the front height as 705–775mm (27.8–30.5 inches), but the table shows 705–800mm (27.8–31.5 inches), which is a difference of 25mm (1 inch)!
The minimum plinth height in the drawing is 90mm (3.5 inches), but the table shows 80mm (3 inches) for the XXL appliance (column 880).
So I wonder how it is possible that the column "880" with a plinth height starting at 80mm is marked white, indicating that every XXL model should fit without a Vario hinge?
Has anyone in this forum already reported that installing an XXL dishwasher without the Vario hinge and without extra supports is not possible?
I will definitely call the consultant to ask about this and point out the inconsistencies between the table and the dimensional drawing.
I’ll share any further findings here.
Best regards
Sektionschef
I also want to install a Siemens dishwasher in my Metod kitchen, so I visited the Siemens showroom in Vienna yesterday for advice.
While I gained some insights, I am not entirely sure if the information from the Siemens consultant is accurate, so I wanted to share all the details here and open the topic for discussion. It would be great if others could also share their experiences.
Yesterday, after I told the consultant the cabinet height (800mm (31.5 inches)) and plinth height (80mm (3 inches)), he showed me a table that indicates whether appliances with heights of 81.5cm (normal) or 86.5cm (XXL) will fit into a particular niche height combined with a certain plinth height.
At the bottom in the legend you can see:
- white fields at 86.5 or light gray fields at 81.5: dishwasher fits directly
- dark gray fields: dishwasher fits only with the Vario hinge
- black fields: dishwasher fits only with the Siemens folding hinge (special accessory).
The table shows a white field at a niche height of 880mm (35 inches) and a plinth height of 80mm (3 inches). According to this, an XXL appliance should fit directly without Vario hinge, meaning the 800mm (31.5 inches) tall front panel can be mounted directly onto the dishwasher door (no additional aids needed).
The consultant said this table applies to all Siemens dishwashers with 60cm (24 inches) width, including fully integrated and semi-integrated models.
However, he also mentioned that even a 5mm (0.2 inch) deviation in the niche height, depending on how the feet of the Metod kitchen are adjusted, can cause problems.
Unfortunately, I only checked the dimensional drawings of the XXL models (86.5cm (34 inches)) without the Vario hinge on the Siemens website after I got home.
What caught my attention is:
The drawing lists the front height as 705–775mm (27.8–30.5 inches), but the table shows 705–800mm (27.8–31.5 inches), which is a difference of 25mm (1 inch)!
The minimum plinth height in the drawing is 90mm (3.5 inches), but the table shows 80mm (3 inches) for the XXL appliance (column 880).
So I wonder how it is possible that the column "880" with a plinth height starting at 80mm is marked white, indicating that every XXL model should fit without a Vario hinge?
Has anyone in this forum already reported that installing an XXL dishwasher without the Vario hinge and without extra supports is not possible?
I will definitely call the consultant to ask about this and point out the inconsistencies between the table and the dimensional drawing.
I’ll share any further findings here.
Best regards
Sektionschef
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Juliette W20 Feb 2015 08:11Thank you for the photos, Jojoman, it looks very good. Do you happen to have a photo with the door fully folded down?
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Hesse.MTK20 Feb 2015 09:11Now the front is done. My husband took the front panel that was meant for the refrigerator. It is a single piece, so installation was easy (everything fits perfectly), and I was able to take the promised photos. Just check the gallery Thank you very much for the photos!
It looks really neat and exactly matches what I had in mind.
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Juliette W20 Feb 2015 12:58In the German internet, a display model of the SX778D01TE is currently being offered with full warranty for 750.-. If anyone is interested.
For me, it’s not only too early, but I’m also not sure whether the features of the SX778D01TE justify the more than 200 euros difference compared to the Bosch SBE65N000EU. Ah, an endless dilemma.
For me, it’s not only too early, but I’m also not sure whether the features of the SX778D01TE justify the more than 200 euros difference compared to the Bosch SBE65N000EU. Ah, an endless dilemma.
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Hesse.MTK20 Feb 2015 18:33A display model of the SX778D01TE is currently being offered on the German internet with full warranty for 750.-. If anyone is interested.
For me, it’s not only too early, but I am also not yet sure if the features of the SX778D01TE justify the price difference of over 200 euros (about 220 USD) compared to the Bosch SBE65N000EU. Ah, an endless problem. Where?
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IKEA-Experte20 Feb 2015 20:14It’s not only too early for me, but I’m also not sure if the features of the SX778D01TE justify the over 200 euro difference compared to the Bosch SBE65N000EU. Ah, an endless dilemma.You just need to check which features the Siemens has that the other doesn’t and decide if you need them. For example, if you have a handle aversion or really want a cutlery drawer, then the Siemens might be the right choice. Otherwise, spend the 200 € on something else nice.
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