á Installing a Siemens dishwasher in an Ikea Metod kitchen
Created on: 12 Feb 2015 21:19
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Sektionschef
Hello
I also want to install a Siemens dishwasher in my Metod kitchen, so I visited the Siemens showroom in Vienna yesterday for advice.
While I gained some insights, I am not entirely sure if the information from the Siemens consultant is accurate, so I wanted to share all the details here and open the topic for discussion. It would be great if others could also share their experiences.
Yesterday, after I told the consultant the cabinet height (800mm (31.5 inches)) and plinth height (80mm (3 inches)), he showed me a table that indicates whether appliances with heights of 81.5cm (normal) or 86.5cm (XXL) will fit into a particular niche height combined with a certain plinth height.
At the bottom in the legend you can see:
- white fields at 86.5 or light gray fields at 81.5: dishwasher fits directly
- dark gray fields: dishwasher fits only with the Vario hinge
- black fields: dishwasher fits only with the Siemens folding hinge (special accessory).
The table shows a white field at a niche height of 880mm (35 inches) and a plinth height of 80mm (3 inches). According to this, an XXL appliance should fit directly without Vario hinge, meaning the 800mm (31.5 inches) tall front panel can be mounted directly onto the dishwasher door (no additional aids needed).
The consultant said this table applies to all Siemens dishwashers with 60cm (24 inches) width, including fully integrated and semi-integrated models.
However, he also mentioned that even a 5mm (0.2 inch) deviation in the niche height, depending on how the feet of the Metod kitchen are adjusted, can cause problems.
Unfortunately, I only checked the dimensional drawings of the XXL models (86.5cm (34 inches)) without the Vario hinge on the Siemens website after I got home.
What caught my attention is:
The drawing lists the front height as 705â775mm (27.8â30.5 inches), but the table shows 705â800mm (27.8â31.5 inches), which is a difference of 25mm (1 inch)!
The minimum plinth height in the drawing is 90mm (3.5 inches), but the table shows 80mm (3 inches) for the XXL appliance (column 880).
So I wonder how it is possible that the column "880" with a plinth height starting at 80mm is marked white, indicating that every XXL model should fit without a Vario hinge?
Has anyone in this forum already reported that installing an XXL dishwasher without the Vario hinge and without extra supports is not possible?
I will definitely call the consultant to ask about this and point out the inconsistencies between the table and the dimensional drawing.
Iâll share any further findings here.
Best regards
Sektionschef
I also want to install a Siemens dishwasher in my Metod kitchen, so I visited the Siemens showroom in Vienna yesterday for advice.
While I gained some insights, I am not entirely sure if the information from the Siemens consultant is accurate, so I wanted to share all the details here and open the topic for discussion. It would be great if others could also share their experiences.
Yesterday, after I told the consultant the cabinet height (800mm (31.5 inches)) and plinth height (80mm (3 inches)), he showed me a table that indicates whether appliances with heights of 81.5cm (normal) or 86.5cm (XXL) will fit into a particular niche height combined with a certain plinth height.
At the bottom in the legend you can see:
- white fields at 86.5 or light gray fields at 81.5: dishwasher fits directly
- dark gray fields: dishwasher fits only with the Vario hinge
- black fields: dishwasher fits only with the Siemens folding hinge (special accessory).
The table shows a white field at a niche height of 880mm (35 inches) and a plinth height of 80mm (3 inches). According to this, an XXL appliance should fit directly without Vario hinge, meaning the 800mm (31.5 inches) tall front panel can be mounted directly onto the dishwasher door (no additional aids needed).
The consultant said this table applies to all Siemens dishwashers with 60cm (24 inches) width, including fully integrated and semi-integrated models.
However, he also mentioned that even a 5mm (0.2 inch) deviation in the niche height, depending on how the feet of the Metod kitchen are adjusted, can cause problems.
Unfortunately, I only checked the dimensional drawings of the XXL models (86.5cm (34 inches)) without the Vario hinge on the Siemens website after I got home.
What caught my attention is:
The drawing lists the front height as 705â775mm (27.8â30.5 inches), but the table shows 705â800mm (27.8â31.5 inches), which is a difference of 25mm (1 inch)!
The minimum plinth height in the drawing is 90mm (3.5 inches), but the table shows 80mm (3 inches) for the XXL appliance (column 880).
So I wonder how it is possible that the column "880" with a plinth height starting at 80mm is marked white, indicating that every XXL model should fit without a Vario hinge?
Has anyone in this forum already reported that installing an XXL dishwasher without the Vario hinge and without extra supports is not possible?
I will definitely call the consultant to ask about this and point out the inconsistencies between the table and the dimensional drawing.
Iâll share any further findings here.
Best regards
Sektionschef
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Hesse.MTK20 Feb 2015 21:27[Quote]Itâs not just that itâs too early for me, Iâm also not sure whether the features of the SX778D01TE justify the over 200 euros difference compared to the Bosch SBE65N000EU. Ah, an endless problem. You just need to look at which features the Siemens has and consider whether you need them. For example, if you have an aversion to handles or youâre really keen on a cutlery drawer or..., then it has to be the Siemens. Otherwise, spend the 200 ⏠on something else nice.[/Quote]
Too late bought for 750
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Juliette W23 Feb 2015 20:28If itâs not too much to ask: I would still be interested in a picture of the dishwasher door fully opened by jojoman. ops:
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Juliette W23 Feb 2015 21:25Great, thank you so much, Jojoman, Iâm really impressed. This is exactly how I imagine a proper door solution. Excellent!
Iâll go for the XXL with adjustable hinge as well. Fortunately, I still have some time before deciding which one to choose...
Iâll go for the XXL with adjustable hinge as well. Fortunately, I still have some time before deciding which one to choose...
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Hesse.MTK5 Mar 2015 08:37[Quote]Great, thank you very much, Jojoman, Iâm thrilled. This is exactly how I imagine a proper door solution. Fantastic!
Youâre very welcome. Iâm glad you like it too.
We also like it very much. [/Quote]
By the way, do you have a single-piece or three-piece setup now? Iâm having the issue that the three parts are getting caught on the base when opening the door.
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