ᐅ Floor plan design shortly before submitting the building permit application
Created on: 2 Oct 2017 23:25
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R.Hotzenplotz
Hello everyone!
As some users have requested before, I’m now starting a new thread with the current planning of our detached house, which is about to be finalized.
These are the preliminary drawings for the building permit / planning permission application, and I have one last chance to review them and point out any issues.
It still seems to me that there is less than 1.20m (4 feet) of space between the two wardrobes in the dressing room. Or am I seeing this wrong? Apparently, the rooms on the left and right were overlooked and not adjusted accordingly.
Two Velux ceiling spotlights are still planned to illuminate the upper floor hallway.
In the basement, on the right side in the upper room, a window similar to the one on the left basement side is an option.
We still haven’t decided on the T30 fire-rated door to the garage, even though it is shown in the plans. Most likely, for safety reasons and the limited use of the kitchen at the other end of the house, we will eventually forgo it.
User 11ant pointed out that the right window in child’s room 2 is suboptimally positioned. However, this could still be changed after submitting the building permit / planning permission application. Our architect thinks moving the window to the left would negatively affect the house’s exterior appearance. We’ll have to see about that.
As some users have requested before, I’m now starting a new thread with the current planning of our detached house, which is about to be finalized.
These are the preliminary drawings for the building permit / planning permission application, and I have one last chance to review them and point out any issues.
It still seems to me that there is less than 1.20m (4 feet) of space between the two wardrobes in the dressing room. Or am I seeing this wrong? Apparently, the rooms on the left and right were overlooked and not adjusted accordingly.
Two Velux ceiling spotlights are still planned to illuminate the upper floor hallway.
In the basement, on the right side in the upper room, a window similar to the one on the left basement side is an option.
We still haven’t decided on the T30 fire-rated door to the garage, even though it is shown in the plans. Most likely, for safety reasons and the limited use of the kitchen at the other end of the house, we will eventually forgo it.
User 11ant pointed out that the right window in child’s room 2 is suboptimally positioned. However, this could still be changed after submitting the building permit / planning permission application. Our architect thinks moving the window to the left would negatively affect the house’s exterior appearance. We’ll have to see about that.
R.Hotzenplotz schrieb:
The canopy is not functionally a problem. The only question would be whether it leads to any price reduction. But I see that as rather uncritical.Yes, that’s how I understood it too, but just switching from concrete to wood like that does seem odd. Hadn’t you noticed that before?
R.Hotzenplotz schrieb:
You currently can’t see the rear wall with the naked eye. But the site manager says that’s only because it’s unplastered. Once it’s plastered, it will be visible and then it will be a problem. If that weren’t the case, he probably wouldn’t have mentioned it voluntarily, even if he had noticed it.Okay, personally I would just be concerned whether they can actually manage that properly. So there is a bulge in one spot, right? And that would stand out clearly once it’s plastered.
R.Hotzenplotz schrieb:
Regarding the stair step, I see about 38cm (15 inches) on the tape measure. Screed is 16cm (6 inches), I don’t know the exact thickness of the parquet, but it can’t be much. So it won’t reach 15cm (6 inches) total.You’re right, I misread that. So in fact, it will be at least a 20cm (8 inches) step, which is quite a noticeable deviation. But you probably won’t gain much headroom at the window either, unless you go for secondary entrance doors (which are available without a real threshold) but they are probably much more expensive. Making it wider would likely be even harder since the openings are built into the masonry accordingly.
R.Hotzenplotz schrieb:
It will turn out well in the end. The question is just how long this will take and how much stress it will cause. The expert doesn’t see it as too critical. He thinks we are in the right on the main points and that legal costs could even be recovered.Sure, if you are fundamentally in the right, costs might not be an issue. The only question is how long this will drag on! But maybe there will be a way to bring this to an acceptable resolution without court involvement, etc.
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R.Hotzenplotz11 Jul 2018 10:17cschiko schrieb:
Yes, that’s how I understood it too, but simply replacing concrete with wood like that seems strange. Hadn’t you noticed that yet?Actually, they did call once to say they preferred to do it that way. But there is no written supplementary agreement or price reduction for it. The expert says it should be cheaper and requires a written supplementary agreement; it can’t be done “on the fly.” I hadn’t really considered the issue. The expert just happened to notice the deviation from the contract on site.
But I’m hardly worried about it.
cschiko schrieb:
So there’s a bulge in one spot, right?Yes.
Still, I can’t just approve the removal of the cladding without being able to evaluate the structural integrity, insulation, etc. And if even the expert can’t approve it because he can’t assess it, we’ll have to see what they propose and do next.
The matter with the doors, thresholds, etc. is way too complex and unclear to me. I’m curious what the lawyer will say, and ideally, he will clarify this in a legally binding way together with the expert—or just tell us “too bad” if nothing can be done.
cschiko schrieb:
But maybe there is still a way to bring this to a sufficiently good conclusion without court proceedings, etc..I assume so, and a good lawyer will aim for that. If we’re in the right, the general contractor will have to concede, since otherwise, they must pay €75 per day of delay.
Is it possible to even out an uneven wall with plaster instead of “peeling” it, if the difference is only 1–1.5cm (0.4–0.6 inches)? With gypsum plaster, that might be borderline thick, but then you could upgrade to a lime-cement plaster. That might even be the more economical option.
It’s no real surprise that no one is willing to approve any modifications to high thermal insulation, filled Poroton blocks. This material is so fragile. If you nibble on one of the filled chambers, you’ll already have half the contents in your hand. Achieving precise adjustments with these bricks is simply difficult if you want to modify them manually. I saw this firsthand yesterday at the future neighbor’s site.
It’s no real surprise that no one is willing to approve any modifications to high thermal insulation, filled Poroton blocks. This material is so fragile. If you nibble on one of the filled chambers, you’ll already have half the contents in your hand. Achieving precise adjustments with these bricks is simply difficult if you want to modify them manually. I saw this firsthand yesterday at the future neighbor’s site.
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R.Hotzenplotz11 Jul 2018 11:48The chambers of the Poroton blocks are not filled. Apparently, this is the basic version.
If I remember correctly, they said the window appearance would no longer fit then.
Alex85 schrieb:
Instead of “peeling” the uneven wall, can’t you just even it out with plaster if it is only about 1–1.5cm (0.4–0.6 inches)?
If I remember correctly, they said the window appearance would no longer fit then.
cschiko schrieb:
but simply replacing concrete with wood is a bit strange. Due to energy saving regulations, one has to rethink: in the past, you would have just extended it straightforwardly across both building sections. However, here, installing “Isokörbe” (insulation baskets) in front of the house would have been necessary if the floor slab had been cantilevered. Prefabricating the wood structure is clearly the significantly more cost-effective and technically better solution.
On construction sites, the prevailing attitude is generally “payment is made at the end,” meaning only the final result, as seen in the fully plastered condition, really matters. Clients walking around the site, measuring during construction, were much less common in the past, so workers are not yet trained for that.
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