ᐅ 17.5 cm Poroton brick plus 16 cm external thermal insulation composite system (ETICS) or 36.5 cm aerated concrete block

Created on: 7 Aug 2013 22:06
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Vit84
Hello experts,

I received an offer from a company for the following masonry: 17.5cm (7 inches) Poroton block plus 16cm (6 inches) external thermal insulation composite system (ETICS). However, I am more inclined towards a monolithic construction and communicated this to the company. Now I received an offer for a monolithic construction made of aerated concrete (Ytong) with a thickness of 36.5cm (14 inches). The additional cost for this is 8000 €.

What do you think?
Vit8414 Aug 2013 14:59
I didn’t even realize I had signed anything. Please keep your smart comments to yourselves if you have nothing relevant to say. Dollar, this is directed at you!
Vit8414 Aug 2013 15:00
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Elektro1
19 Aug 2013 14:24
Hello,

Personally, I would lean towards the 36.5cm (14 inches) Poroton brick.

The disadvantages of the ETICS (External Thermal Insulation Composite System) are, in my opinion, quite significant.

These include:
- Risk of moisture damage if the installation is not done properly
- Woodpeckers have discovered ETICS as a perfect nesting site, leading to increased costs for repairs
- Fire safety! Although ETICS systems are supposed to be fire-retardant, tests and unfortunately real fires have shown that this is not always the case, and fire can spread up the entire exterior wall
- The appearance after a few years: once the fungicides and pesticides wash out, algae and similar growths can settle freely. (However, this might also be an issue related to the render or exterior coating and can potentially occur with 37.5cm (15 inches) Poroton as well)

I once found a good report on YouTube from NDR; just search for
"45min thermal insulation systems"
Best regards
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Elektro1
19 Aug 2013 20:17
I forgot to mention the eventual disposal. How long does such a system last—30, 40, or 50 years? After that, it becomes hazardous waste.
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DerBjoern
19 Aug 2013 20:50
Styrofoam is not classified as hazardous waste today and won’t be in 30, 40, or 50 years either. Styrofoam can be recycled and, if necessary, completely incinerated. Algae growth can just as easily occur on a house with solid masonry walls if it is insulated equally well.
Algae growth mainly depends on whether the surface can dry quickly enough or doesn’t get wet at all (roof overhangs). The distance to forests and shrubs also plays a role.
This entire report from NDR is pure scaremongering. It has already been thoroughly discussed.
Vit8422 Aug 2013 22:14
DerBjoern schrieb:
If necessary, burn it completely.

Yes, it’s really not that difficult.