ᐅ Floor plan design shortly before submitting the building permit application

Created on: 2 Oct 2017 23:25
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R.Hotzenplotz
Hello everyone!

As some users have requested before, I’m now starting a new thread with the current planning of our detached house, which is about to be finalized.

These are the preliminary drawings for the building permit / planning permission application, and I have one last chance to review them and point out any issues.

It still seems to me that there is less than 1.20m (4 feet) of space between the two wardrobes in the dressing room. Or am I seeing this wrong? Apparently, the rooms on the left and right were overlooked and not adjusted accordingly.

Two Velux ceiling spotlights are still planned to illuminate the upper floor hallway.

In the basement, on the right side in the upper room, a window similar to the one on the left basement side is an option.

We still haven’t decided on the T30 fire-rated door to the garage, even though it is shown in the plans. Most likely, for safety reasons and the limited use of the kitchen at the other end of the house, we will eventually forgo it.

User 11ant pointed out that the right window in child’s room 2 is suboptimally positioned. However, this could still be changed after submitting the building permit / planning permission application. Our architect thinks moving the window to the left would negatively affect the house’s exterior appearance. We’ll have to see about that.

Grundriss Kellergeschoss mit 3 Kellerräumen, Abstellraum, Flur, Haustechnik und Treppe.


Grundriss eines Hauses mit Keller, Flur KG, Haustechnik KG, Abstellraum KG und Treppen


Grundriss eines Hauses: Garage, Büro, Garderobe, Diele, WC, Küche, Wohn-/Essbereich.


Grundriss Dachgeschoss: Schlafzimmer, Ankleide, Bad, Dusche, zwei Kinderzimmer, Flur HWR Dachterrasse


Technischer Grundriss: Zentraler, ungenutzter DG-Bereich (193 m²) mit umlaufenden Dachschrägen.


Schnitt durch mehrstöckiges Wohnhaus mit Keller, Treppe, Dachkonstruktion und Maßlinien.


Moderne Wohnhausansicht: zweigeschossiges Gebäude mit Garage links und großen Fenstern.


Architektonischer Haus-Elevationsplan: Keller bis Dachgeschoss, Dach, Fenster, Geländeprofil.


Moderne zweigeschossige Hausansicht mit Flachdach, Balkonen, großen Fenstern und Garage.


Zweistöckiges Haus mit dunkler Fassade, grauem Dach, Balkon rechts und Garten mit Bäumen.
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R.Hotzenplotz
26 Jun 2018 19:32
11ant schrieb:
But where is your problem

I don’t have a problem with it, the general contractor does!! The entire wall at the top of the plan is already allocated for solar technology, heating systems, hot water storage, etc. The main utility connection box is in the way, and he says it can’t stay there. I really don’t care where that thing is installed. But they are insisting that I have it changed, otherwise they can’t continue working. They also told me that the utility connections are clearly marked on the upper wall in the plan, not on the right side.
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matte
26 Jun 2018 19:47
Lol. Then your general contractor should take care of it. It’s his problem, not yours. His construction site, not yours.
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R.Hotzenplotz
26 Jun 2018 19:52
matte1987 schrieb:
Lol. Then your general contractor should handle it. It’s his problem, not yours. His construction site, not yours.

He frames it so that the utility provider and the billing for services are not within his scope of responsibility (since this is not part of the construction contract). He says I’m the contact person for the utility provider. In principle, he’s right about that. At most, I can argue that I also was not informed where exactly the house connection box is supposed to be installed.

However, I also have doubts about whether the planning documents clearly state that the house connections should be installed on the uppermost wall according to the plan. No one has commented on this yet. Should the house connection box have been specifically mentioned separately?
kaho67426 Jun 2018 19:56
matte1987 schrieb:
Lol. Then your general contractor (GC) should take care of it. That’s his problem, not yours. His construction site, not yours.

I would be cautious with that. Of course, the GC has to solve the problem, but in the end, it’s your house and a lot of money. Basically, I’d always recommend solving problems together. If you just leave him alone, he might end up doing something you don’t like at all. He might deduct a few dollars from the invoice at most, but you’ll have to live with the mess forever.
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haydee
26 Jun 2018 19:59
Push everything to Monday. If in doubt, ask the new expert.

In our case, it was the responsibility of the general contractor/site manager. The plumber had positioned his equipment incorrectly, and the utility provider left without completing the job.
11ant26 Jun 2018 20:23
R.Hotzenplotz schrieb:
But they are insisting that I have it changed, otherwise they cannot continue working. They also tell me that the utility connections are clearly marked at the top of the wall on the plan, not on the right side.

Who is demanding the change? - if I understand correctly, it’s the heating contractor:
R.Hotzenplotz schrieb:
The heating contractor says he needs the entire wall and cannot install anything there.

However, he also would not have been able to install the previously planned system there, because the energy connection is located on that wall. Whether it’s inside a box or not, it is basically marked there—covering it with a box is to be expected; and the box as a housing does not mean that this connection must be accessible. You cannot simply place the heating equipment in front of it as shown on the drawing.

The heating contractor will have to look for another wall and change the overall system layout, or the general contractor must arrange and pay for relocating the utility connection box to the wall with the other connections.

Even if you sealed the envelope with the plan to the utility provider: the plan was drawn up by the general contractor, and as a layperson, you cannot identify the mistake. So it is the general contractor who misinformed the utility provider.

The utility provider is acting entirely correctly by following the plan and not interpreting wall markings. The electrician is also acting correctly when he only works on the box from the output side and leaves the input side (and thus the box location) as the utility provider specified. The general contractor must review the plans before sending them out!
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