ᐅ Floor plan design shortly before submitting the building permit application
Created on: 2 Oct 2017 23:25
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R.Hotzenplotz
Hello everyone!
As some users have requested before, I’m now starting a new thread with the current planning of our detached house, which is about to be finalized.
These are the preliminary drawings for the building permit / planning permission application, and I have one last chance to review them and point out any issues.
It still seems to me that there is less than 1.20m (4 feet) of space between the two wardrobes in the dressing room. Or am I seeing this wrong? Apparently, the rooms on the left and right were overlooked and not adjusted accordingly.
Two Velux ceiling spotlights are still planned to illuminate the upper floor hallway.
In the basement, on the right side in the upper room, a window similar to the one on the left basement side is an option.
We still haven’t decided on the T30 fire-rated door to the garage, even though it is shown in the plans. Most likely, for safety reasons and the limited use of the kitchen at the other end of the house, we will eventually forgo it.
User 11ant pointed out that the right window in child’s room 2 is suboptimally positioned. However, this could still be changed after submitting the building permit / planning permission application. Our architect thinks moving the window to the left would negatively affect the house’s exterior appearance. We’ll have to see about that.
As some users have requested before, I’m now starting a new thread with the current planning of our detached house, which is about to be finalized.
These are the preliminary drawings for the building permit / planning permission application, and I have one last chance to review them and point out any issues.
It still seems to me that there is less than 1.20m (4 feet) of space between the two wardrobes in the dressing room. Or am I seeing this wrong? Apparently, the rooms on the left and right were overlooked and not adjusted accordingly.
Two Velux ceiling spotlights are still planned to illuminate the upper floor hallway.
In the basement, on the right side in the upper room, a window similar to the one on the left basement side is an option.
We still haven’t decided on the T30 fire-rated door to the garage, even though it is shown in the plans. Most likely, for safety reasons and the limited use of the kitchen at the other end of the house, we will eventually forgo it.
User 11ant pointed out that the right window in child’s room 2 is suboptimally positioned. However, this could still be changed after submitting the building permit / planning permission application. Our architect thinks moving the window to the left would negatively affect the house’s exterior appearance. We’ll have to see about that.
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R.Hotzenplotz27 Jun 2018 01:10tomtom79 schrieb:
I’ve had this feeling for a while now @R.Hotzenplotz Please make your point clearly—you’re paying, and somehow you are only living with compromises.Unfortunately, I didn’t notice many things during the execution planning phase. However, they are contractually agreed upon. Nevertheless, I will ask the expert on Monday whether the issues that bother me are really acceptable according to the contract, recognized technical standards, etc.
It doesn’t help to make broad accusations if they are not well-founded. The general contractor (GC) is not building their first house and knows how to defend themselves against unfounded criticism from clients. If I raise something, it has to be justified and valid.
R.Hotzenplotz schrieb:
If I raise a point, it must be well-founded and justified.The general contractor (GC) gave you an outdated plan to forward to the energy provider, and apparently the site manager was absent when the provider’s technician arrived. This criticism is justified and well-founded, at least insofar as the plan was outdated. The ambiguity of the markings can be debated, but it would not have caused any issues if the site manager had been present. A technician left on their own does what their dispatcher instructs them to do.https://www.instagram.com/11antgmxde/
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R.Hotzenplotz27 Jun 2018 06:3311ant schrieb:
The general contractor gave you an outdated plan to forward to the utility provider, and their site manager was apparently absent when the provider’s technician arrived.The plan was handed over to the utility provider many, many months ago. At that time, the plan was still up to date.
The site manager was indeed not on site. However, he argues that he is not responsible for coordinating and supervising the client’s trades under the construction contract. There is no contractual basis for that.
Furthermore, the utility provider does not specify any arrival times. So either he or I could stand around all day waiting for someone to show up. I would have done that if I had anticipated this hassle in advance.
11ant schrieb:
This criticism is justified and valid at least insofar as the plan was outdated.I expect people will say that the plans were updated and that it was my responsibility to forward them to the utility provider, since according to the contract, they do not manage the utility matters themselves. While a reminder to me would have been reasonable from a practical point of view, whether I can legally demand that is another matter.
For this reason, I do not simply see “calling out” as the solution here. The key question is which services are actually contractually owed, where there has been misconduct, and where I would have had a legitimate expectation that something would have been handled differently. A helpful question in this regard would be, for example, whether it is common practice to include the utility connection box on the execution plan or not.
R.Hotzenplotz schrieb:
Unfortunately, I didn’t notice many issues during the detailed planning phase. However, they are contractually agreed upon. Still, on Monday I will ask the surveyor whether the points that bother me are really acceptable according to the contract, recognized industry standards, and so on.
It doesn’t make sense to make broad accusations without a solid basis. The general contractor is not building their first house and knows how to defend themselves against unfounded criticism from the client. If I raise concerns, they must be well-founded and justified. Well, reading your “story” like that, one might get the impression that your general contractor is building their first house.
I would be interested in your selection criteria for choosing your general contractor...
Don’t belittle yourself and don’t only look for mistakes on your side.
You didn’t do the planning; you hired the general contractor (GC) for that. I think a few firm words won’t hurt. Not every word has to be thoroughly justified. Your GC is currently testing how far he can push you – and that’s quite far.
What happens if he imposes a work stoppage? Who suffers what damage? His next progress payment, for which he has already incurred costs, will also be paused for the time being.
You didn’t do the planning; you hired the general contractor (GC) for that. I think a few firm words won’t hurt. Not every word has to be thoroughly justified. Your GC is currently testing how far he can push you – and that’s quite far.
What happens if he imposes a work stoppage? Who suffers what damage? His next progress payment, for which he has already incurred costs, will also be paused for the time being.
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R.Hotzenplotz27 Jun 2018 09:47Neither party has so far even mentioned a construction stop. There is no interest in that. From a legal perspective, it is possible to point out any defects during the final inspection that were not executed properly – which does not mean that they should not be addressed earlier. However, if defects are not corrected, are documented, and the general contractor continues working, they do not disappear and remain on the agenda.
Legally, I can only provide comments and requests for corrections during the construction phase… and indicate that I will not accept the house as is.
Legally, I can only provide comments and requests for corrections during the construction phase… and indicate that I will not accept the house as is.
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