ᐅ Floor plan design shortly before submitting the building permit application

Created on: 2 Oct 2017 23:25
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R.Hotzenplotz
Hello everyone!

As some users have requested before, I’m now starting a new thread with the current planning of our detached house, which is about to be finalized.

These are the preliminary drawings for the building permit / planning permission application, and I have one last chance to review them and point out any issues.

It still seems to me that there is less than 1.20m (4 feet) of space between the two wardrobes in the dressing room. Or am I seeing this wrong? Apparently, the rooms on the left and right were overlooked and not adjusted accordingly.

Two Velux ceiling spotlights are still planned to illuminate the upper floor hallway.

In the basement, on the right side in the upper room, a window similar to the one on the left basement side is an option.

We still haven’t decided on the T30 fire-rated door to the garage, even though it is shown in the plans. Most likely, for safety reasons and the limited use of the kitchen at the other end of the house, we will eventually forgo it.

User 11ant pointed out that the right window in child’s room 2 is suboptimally positioned. However, this could still be changed after submitting the building permit / planning permission application. Our architect thinks moving the window to the left would negatively affect the house’s exterior appearance. We’ll have to see about that.

Grundriss Kellergeschoss mit 3 Kellerräumen, Abstellraum, Flur, Haustechnik und Treppe.


Grundriss eines Hauses mit Keller, Flur KG, Haustechnik KG, Abstellraum KG und Treppen


Grundriss eines Hauses: Garage, Büro, Garderobe, Diele, WC, Küche, Wohn-/Essbereich.


Grundriss Dachgeschoss: Schlafzimmer, Ankleide, Bad, Dusche, zwei Kinderzimmer, Flur HWR Dachterrasse


Technischer Grundriss: Zentraler, ungenutzter DG-Bereich (193 m²) mit umlaufenden Dachschrägen.


Schnitt durch mehrstöckiges Wohnhaus mit Keller, Treppe, Dachkonstruktion und Maßlinien.


Moderne Wohnhausansicht: zweigeschossiges Gebäude mit Garage links und großen Fenstern.


Architektonischer Haus-Elevationsplan: Keller bis Dachgeschoss, Dach, Fenster, Geländeprofil.


Moderne zweigeschossige Hausansicht mit Flachdach, Balkonen, großen Fenstern und Garage.


Zweistöckiges Haus mit dunkler Fassade, grauem Dach, Balkon rechts und Garten mit Bäumen.
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R.Hotzenplotz
12 Oct 2017 13:05
11ant schrieb:
I wouldn’t have a garage pass-through door

We are moving away from that idea more and more as well. Now that there is even a step involved, it’s almost a deal breaker.

Just now the architect called. There is no space on the right side of the house for an access gate for a mini excavator. We are now planning a 2m (6.5 ft) high fence there to separate the garden. For that reason, a rear gate needs to be planned in the garage, so the mini excavator can drive out from there.

Without the advice from the construction consultant, I don’t think we would have figured this out in time. It definitely paid off to have someone with expertise review it face to face.
11ant12 Oct 2017 13:20
R.Hotzenplotz schrieb:
That now even a step would come into play there brings the matter close to a knockout.

As I said, you don’t have to level the subfloors flush, you can also do this with the finished floor surfaces.

Have you seriously failed to see the forest for the trees, meaning, in all the fiddling with other little adjustments, forgotten that a garage usually has an unheated floor, which is therefore often built with less thickness?
R.Hotzenplotz schrieb:
To the right of the house there is no space left for a driveway gate for a mini excavator. We are now planning a 2m (6.5 ft) high fence there to separate the garden. Because of this, a rear door must also be planned in the garage so that a mini excavator can be driven out there.

I honestly don’t even understand what you mean here (???)
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R.Hotzenplotz
12 Oct 2017 13:29
11ant schrieb:
Have you seriously missed the forest for the trees, meaning during all the fiddling with other screws you forgot that a garage usually has an unheated floor and is therefore often built with thinner layers?

Yes, I definitely hadn’t considered that. This is my first and probably only house, and as a layperson in this field, I tend to focus on other things.
11ant schrieb:
I don’t even understand that (???)

We don’t want anyone to be able to walk around the right side of the house into the backyard. Originally, we had in mind a wall with a driveway gate there, enough to get a mini excavator through. The suggestion about the mini excavator came up somewhere in the forum, and I liked the idea. The architect always said we don’t need to include that in the plans as I could just add it later. The building consultant then said everything has to be planned in advance if we want to avoid submitting a second building permit / planning permission. He also pointed out that the area on the right side of the house could be very tight, especially since there is a steep slope at the property boundary there.

After passing on this information, the architect took another look and also concluded that the driveway on the right won’t work. As an alternative, he recommended a rear garage door that the mini excavator could pass through. I expressed concerns whether the garage would be tall enough, but he reassured me that the operator’s cab on mini excavators can be removed and that it wouldn’t be a problem.

Nevertheless, we will include the barrier on the right side, as we want a 2-meter (6.5 feet) high fence there. He said that only a 1.8-meter (6 feet) fence can be built later without permission.
11ant12 Oct 2017 13:33
R.Hotzenplotz schrieb:
This is my first and probably only house

And does it really make sense that you want to operate an excavator in its garden?

Isn’t a mini excavator a bit too big for a standard-height garage?
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R.Hotzenplotz
12 Oct 2017 14:16
11ant schrieb:
And does it really fit that you want to operate an excavator in the garden of all places???

I don’t want to operate it myself. But it has been recommended here (and elsewhere) that for any larger garden work later on, you should definitely be able to bring a mini excavator into the garden. For example, if you want to install a swimming pool later.
11ant schrieb:
Isn’t a mini excavator a bit too tall for a standard-height garage?

That’s what I suspected as well. I have already shared what the architect said about it....
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Maria16
12 Oct 2017 19:01
R.Hotzenplotz schrieb:
I already asked about the room designation. She said that it is no longer allowed to write it that way, but how I use it is my own business.

Did you also ask why it is no longer allowed?
And if the answer was: because the fire safety regulations do not comply – did you then ask whether she would be liable if you set up a guest room based on her advice and someone was injured in a fire?

(don’t get me wrong, I don’t care at all what you do with your rooms or if anything might go wrong – but I’m still wondering whether you made an informed and conscious decision…)