ᐅ Floor plan design shortly before submitting the building permit application

Created on: 2 Oct 2017 23:25
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R.Hotzenplotz
Hello everyone!

As some users have requested before, I’m now starting a new thread with the current planning of our detached house, which is about to be finalized.

These are the preliminary drawings for the building permit / planning permission application, and I have one last chance to review them and point out any issues.

It still seems to me that there is less than 1.20m (4 feet) of space between the two wardrobes in the dressing room. Or am I seeing this wrong? Apparently, the rooms on the left and right were overlooked and not adjusted accordingly.

Two Velux ceiling spotlights are still planned to illuminate the upper floor hallway.

In the basement, on the right side in the upper room, a window similar to the one on the left basement side is an option.

We still haven’t decided on the T30 fire-rated door to the garage, even though it is shown in the plans. Most likely, for safety reasons and the limited use of the kitchen at the other end of the house, we will eventually forgo it.

User 11ant pointed out that the right window in child’s room 2 is suboptimally positioned. However, this could still be changed after submitting the building permit / planning permission application. Our architect thinks moving the window to the left would negatively affect the house’s exterior appearance. We’ll have to see about that.

Grundriss Kellergeschoss mit 3 Kellerräumen, Abstellraum, Flur, Haustechnik und Treppe.


Grundriss eines Hauses mit Keller, Flur KG, Haustechnik KG, Abstellraum KG und Treppen


Grundriss eines Hauses: Garage, Büro, Garderobe, Diele, WC, Küche, Wohn-/Essbereich.


Grundriss Dachgeschoss: Schlafzimmer, Ankleide, Bad, Dusche, zwei Kinderzimmer, Flur HWR Dachterrasse


Technischer Grundriss: Zentraler, ungenutzter DG-Bereich (193 m²) mit umlaufenden Dachschrägen.


Schnitt durch mehrstöckiges Wohnhaus mit Keller, Treppe, Dachkonstruktion und Maßlinien.


Moderne Wohnhausansicht: zweigeschossiges Gebäude mit Garage links und großen Fenstern.


Architektonischer Haus-Elevationsplan: Keller bis Dachgeschoss, Dach, Fenster, Geländeprofil.


Moderne zweigeschossige Hausansicht mit Flachdach, Balkonen, großen Fenstern und Garage.


Zweistöckiges Haus mit dunkler Fassade, grauem Dach, Balkon rechts und Garten mit Bäumen.
Josephine248910 Sep 2018 18:31
matte1987 schrieb:
That’s exactly what I meant. It’s a small but very important difference regarding who hires the architect.
That’s why I said you would have been better off with an architect managing individual contracts.

I also consider the claim that managing individual contracts takes more time to be a myth. You can, but don’t have to decide on everything. You still need to choose finishes with the architect just as with the general contractor. Preparing the specifications, tendering, and evaluating offers isn’t your task, but the architect’s.

That’s exactly how we did it. We hired a local architect, planned the entire house ourselves, and he awarded all the trades to local companies.

We select finishes, make calls, and approve things, but nothing much beyond that.

Except for a lightning strike during the shell construction—which no one was responsible for—and an unreliable stove installer, we had no real problems.

We also knew that our wishes were so individual that no one else could have helped us.

I hope your house will still be completed to your satisfaction…!
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R.Hotzenplotz
10 Sep 2018 19:52
MayrCh schrieb:
And once again, the prioritization is completely off.

Maybe for you.
MayrCh schrieb:
I’m talking about basic things. Is the system properly designed; check the data sheet. What do I get, wall, ceiling, or floor outlets, and where will they be installed?

I have already said multiple times that the general contractor only provides the planning documents at handover. And even if they had provided them earlier, there would be no chance to intervene because nothing regarding the type of outlets is stipulated in the contract.
MayrCh schrieb:
Besides, floor outlets would never, ever be installed in my house.

We have no issue with that, and I don’t see why we should create a problem where there isn’t one. Currently, there is no reason to believe that the ventilation system is anything but fine.
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haydee
10 Sep 2018 20:19
Why not have outlets in the floor?
We have them too
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R.Hotzenplotz
10 Sep 2018 20:20
haydee schrieb:
Why are outlets not installed in the floor?
We have that too

I don’t understand that either. I also don’t like it when things are portrayed worse than they actually are. Sometimes I feel like people are trying to make you doubt your own home. I’m sure that almost everyone who isn’t very technically skilled finds aspects of their house that they would have planned differently in hindsight. We don’t know ANYONE in our circle of acquaintances who had fewer problems. On the contrary; in most cases, the issues were even more severe.
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haydee
10 Sep 2018 20:45
You have significantly more problems than we or friends of ours who built around the same time. I only know one person with more issues than you.

I’m sure you wouldn’t have these problems with our general contractor (GC). You have left many things to the GC or assumed that he would point them out to you or think things through to the end. He is simply not the right partner for you.
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R.Hotzenplotz
10 Sep 2018 20:52
Some acquaintances of ours built with an architect, and the electrician disappeared with the money. In the neighborhood, there is a house that has been under structural work since 2014 – the external thermal insulation composite system (ETICS) has been deteriorating due to weather exposure – the basement is like a dripstone cave. Since then, only inspectors and lawyers have been involved. This is also an architect-designed house.

It can go better than with us; but it can also go much worse. And it can't be changed anymore, it simply has to be completed now.