ᐅ Floor plan design shortly before submitting the building permit application

Created on: 2 Oct 2017 23:25
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R.Hotzenplotz
Hello everyone!

As some users have requested before, I’m now starting a new thread with the current planning of our detached house, which is about to be finalized.

These are the preliminary drawings for the building permit / planning permission application, and I have one last chance to review them and point out any issues.

It still seems to me that there is less than 1.20m (4 feet) of space between the two wardrobes in the dressing room. Or am I seeing this wrong? Apparently, the rooms on the left and right were overlooked and not adjusted accordingly.

Two Velux ceiling spotlights are still planned to illuminate the upper floor hallway.

In the basement, on the right side in the upper room, a window similar to the one on the left basement side is an option.

We still haven’t decided on the T30 fire-rated door to the garage, even though it is shown in the plans. Most likely, for safety reasons and the limited use of the kitchen at the other end of the house, we will eventually forgo it.

User 11ant pointed out that the right window in child’s room 2 is suboptimally positioned. However, this could still be changed after submitting the building permit / planning permission application. Our architect thinks moving the window to the left would negatively affect the house’s exterior appearance. We’ll have to see about that.

Grundriss Kellergeschoss mit 3 Kellerräumen, Abstellraum, Flur, Haustechnik und Treppe.


Grundriss eines Hauses mit Keller, Flur KG, Haustechnik KG, Abstellraum KG und Treppen


Grundriss eines Hauses: Garage, Büro, Garderobe, Diele, WC, Küche, Wohn-/Essbereich.


Grundriss Dachgeschoss: Schlafzimmer, Ankleide, Bad, Dusche, zwei Kinderzimmer, Flur HWR Dachterrasse


Technischer Grundriss: Zentraler, ungenutzter DG-Bereich (193 m²) mit umlaufenden Dachschrägen.


Schnitt durch mehrstöckiges Wohnhaus mit Keller, Treppe, Dachkonstruktion und Maßlinien.


Moderne Wohnhausansicht: zweigeschossiges Gebäude mit Garage links und großen Fenstern.


Architektonischer Haus-Elevationsplan: Keller bis Dachgeschoss, Dach, Fenster, Geländeprofil.


Moderne zweigeschossige Hausansicht mit Flachdach, Balkonen, großen Fenstern und Garage.


Zweistöckiges Haus mit dunkler Fassade, grauem Dach, Balkon rechts und Garten mit Bäumen.
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R.Hotzenplotz
11 Sep 2018 14:57
Snowy36 schrieb:
Then I still don’t quite understand why they now have different passage heights?

I don’t understand that either! The general contractor’s explanation is that the slats have different designs! That’s his problem, not mine! If he offers the slats with the specified heights from the building permit / planning permission, he has to deliver them accordingly or inform us in advance that particular slats only come with different heights.
11ant11 Sep 2018 16:13
R.Hotzenplotz schrieb:
If he offers the slats with the specified heights from the building permit/planning permission, he has to deliver accordingly or inform in advance that certain slats can only be used with different heights.

On one hand, I agree with that, but on the other hand, it’s nicer when it "fits" rather than using 4.1 slats, because four are too few and five too many. Maybe he thought you wouldn’t understand anyway (since you thought the gate would roll up as a coil)?
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11 Sep 2018 16:51
11ant schrieb:
I agree with that to some extent, but it looks better when it “fits” rather than using 4.1 slats, because four is too few and five is too many.

It’s quite simple. If he offers slat type XY and explicitly states “based on the building permit / planning permission,” then he must deliver accordingly or inform beforehand if it doesn’t fit. If he then simply changes the dimensions compared to the building permit and afterwards roughly says, “But you wanted this slat, sir,” that is not acceptable, and I don’t think, even as a legal layperson, that he would get away with it.
11ant schrieb:
Did he perhaps think you wouldn’t understand anyway (since you thought the gate would roll up like a roller)?

In contract law for work and services, it does not matter which party has more technical expertise—it simply depends on what has been contractually agreed.
11ant11 Sep 2018 17:01
That’s true, but one builder prefers the agreed height, while another one gets very upset if, because of that, what looks like nonsense to me, a small leftover strip of about one-eighth of a millimeter is added at the top or bottom instead of rounding to full panel elements.
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11 Sep 2018 17:08
11ant schrieb:
That’s true, but one client prefers the agreed-upon height, while another gets really upset if, instead of rounding to whole panel elements, a small leftover strip—like a fraction of a millimeter—is added at the top or bottom, which in my opinion looks terrible.

I agree with you. Therefore, it would have made sense for the construction company to discuss this with the client.

From what I understand, without any clarification, the client is now legally better off with the cut strip.

I can’t understand how anyone can work like this. Whether as a general contractor, an independent architect, or whatever. This kind of thing must be clarified with the client. Or actually, they wouldn’t even have to clarify anything if they had simply put the correct dimensions in the building permit / planning permission application. Then even we would have noticed that it doesn’t fit.
11ant11 Sep 2018 17:21
R.Hotzenplotz schrieb:
I just can't understand how anyone can work like that.

Tastes differ so much: I would never, ever come up with such a complicated special case, cladding the back gate differently from the front gate. As many finite elements as possible, reduce complexity. Every additional corner is also one more spot where things can go wrong.
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