ᐅ Floor plan design shortly before submitting the building permit application
Created on: 2 Oct 2017 23:25
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R.Hotzenplotz
Hello everyone!
As some users have requested before, I’m now starting a new thread with the current planning of our detached house, which is about to be finalized.
These are the preliminary drawings for the building permit / planning permission application, and I have one last chance to review them and point out any issues.
It still seems to me that there is less than 1.20m (4 feet) of space between the two wardrobes in the dressing room. Or am I seeing this wrong? Apparently, the rooms on the left and right were overlooked and not adjusted accordingly.
Two Velux ceiling spotlights are still planned to illuminate the upper floor hallway.
In the basement, on the right side in the upper room, a window similar to the one on the left basement side is an option.
We still haven’t decided on the T30 fire-rated door to the garage, even though it is shown in the plans. Most likely, for safety reasons and the limited use of the kitchen at the other end of the house, we will eventually forgo it.
User 11ant pointed out that the right window in child’s room 2 is suboptimally positioned. However, this could still be changed after submitting the building permit / planning permission application. Our architect thinks moving the window to the left would negatively affect the house’s exterior appearance. We’ll have to see about that.









As some users have requested before, I’m now starting a new thread with the current planning of our detached house, which is about to be finalized.
These are the preliminary drawings for the building permit / planning permission application, and I have one last chance to review them and point out any issues.
It still seems to me that there is less than 1.20m (4 feet) of space between the two wardrobes in the dressing room. Or am I seeing this wrong? Apparently, the rooms on the left and right were overlooked and not adjusted accordingly.
Two Velux ceiling spotlights are still planned to illuminate the upper floor hallway.
In the basement, on the right side in the upper room, a window similar to the one on the left basement side is an option.
We still haven’t decided on the T30 fire-rated door to the garage, even though it is shown in the plans. Most likely, for safety reasons and the limited use of the kitchen at the other end of the house, we will eventually forgo it.
User 11ant pointed out that the right window in child’s room 2 is suboptimally positioned. However, this could still be changed after submitting the building permit / planning permission application. Our architect thinks moving the window to the left would negatively affect the house’s exterior appearance. We’ll have to see about that.
R.Hotzenplotz schrieb:
Then it becomes funny if the general contractor doesn’t continue building later because I didn’t pay to relocate the utility connection box myself. What a mess! I have the feeling they are building their first house!Then I must have misunderstood you. To me, it sounds like either you pay to have it relocated or we stop construction (work stoppage).
Sure, then all site inspections during the construction phase would have been pointless. Afterwards, there is always a consideration of how severe the damage is and whether a change is still feasible. For example, fixing it now during the shell construction might cost 100 euros, but later, once it’s covered by plaster and paint, it could easily be 3,000 euros. Does it affect functionality or not? In the latter case, if you’re lucky, you might only get a small reduction in the contract price.
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R.Hotzenplotz27 Jun 2018 12:05haydee schrieb:
To me, it sounds like you either re-route the pipe or we stop building (construction halt)It wasn’t said that bluntly. The only thing mentioned was that the heating system can’t be installed unless I re-route the pipe. But they should first formally request this in writing, then I will address it accordingly. The inspector is coming on Monday.
There are ongoing issues with the rough-in plumbing installation. I pointed out that my fine plumber criticized the rough plumber for only installing a 16 mm (5/8 inch) or 17 mm (11/16 inch) supply line from the shower valve to the Hansgrohe Axor overhead shower (26 l/min at 3 bar), which is undersized. Even after repeated requests to correct this, the rough plumber insists that the installation meets requirements. I just got confirmation from Hansgrohe that a 20 mm (3/4 inch) supply line is required.
I also contacted Keuco with the same question regarding the rain shower head. They will call me back.
However, I will not initiate a construction stop. Instead, I will point out that, based on the manufacturer’s statement, I still believe the installation is incorrect and therefore the final acceptance may be in question.
R.Hotzenplotz schrieb:
Here, I will not initiate a work stop either, but I will point out that based on the manufacturer’s statement, I still assume that it was executed incorrectly and will therefore question the final approval later.So a work stop probably wouldn’t be very effective anyway. But as others have already told you, sometimes you have to be assertive. As has been demonstrated here, if the supply lines aren’t corrected now, it could later be considered an unreasonable change—because you might have to remove tiles, for example. However, it might, without me being able to say this precisely for this case, only lead to a limited function of the shower, which may not justify the associated effort.
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R.Hotzenplotz27 Jun 2018 13:55Yes, but how am I supposed to pound the table?? I’m not a judge who can determine whether they or the other people are right. In the end, only an expert can clarify that, not me.
Well, if you have confirmation from HansGrohe that a 16mm (5/8 inch) or 17mm (11/16 inch) pipe is not sufficient and a 20mm (3/4 inch) pipe must be installed, then I would present this confirmation to the appropriate person. Have you hired the plumber? If not, then go to your site manager.
As I said, it is still easy to fix now. Later on, it might only be possible with disproportionate effort.
As I said, it is still easy to fix now. Later on, it might only be possible with disproportionate effort.
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R.Hotzenplotz27 Jun 2018 14:04What does a confirmation mean? The man said that over the phone. It’s not their responsibility to send written confirmations to end customers, and even if it were, it wouldn’t have expert validity.
However, I conveyed the statement as it was, pointing out that during the inspection I will check the water pressure in detail and, if necessary, will not be satisfied with just a discount. There’s nothing more I can do. If it was not understood that the work needs to be double-checked for 100% accuracy, that’s not something I can change.
Of course, I also included the effort involved. So I don’t understand the fuss about a few hoses.
Why go to the site manager? That’s the person I have been confronting with this issue the whole time. Management is copied in.
On Monday, the new expert will arrive. I will explain the situation to him and ask for his advice on whether it is advisable to immediately involve a costly plumbing expert or how he assesses the situation.
However, I conveyed the statement as it was, pointing out that during the inspection I will check the water pressure in detail and, if necessary, will not be satisfied with just a discount. There’s nothing more I can do. If it was not understood that the work needs to be double-checked for 100% accuracy, that’s not something I can change.
Of course, I also included the effort involved. So I don’t understand the fuss about a few hoses.
Why go to the site manager? That’s the person I have been confronting with this issue the whole time. Management is copied in.
On Monday, the new expert will arrive. I will explain the situation to him and ask for his advice on whether it is advisable to immediately involve a costly plumbing expert or how he assesses the situation.
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