ᐅ Floor plan design shortly before submitting the building permit application

Created on: 2 Oct 2017 23:25
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R.Hotzenplotz
Hello everyone!

As some users have requested before, I’m now starting a new thread with the current planning of our detached house, which is about to be finalized.

These are the preliminary drawings for the building permit / planning permission application, and I have one last chance to review them and point out any issues.

It still seems to me that there is less than 1.20m (4 feet) of space between the two wardrobes in the dressing room. Or am I seeing this wrong? Apparently, the rooms on the left and right were overlooked and not adjusted accordingly.

Two Velux ceiling spotlights are still planned to illuminate the upper floor hallway.

In the basement, on the right side in the upper room, a window similar to the one on the left basement side is an option.

We still haven’t decided on the T30 fire-rated door to the garage, even though it is shown in the plans. Most likely, for safety reasons and the limited use of the kitchen at the other end of the house, we will eventually forgo it.

User 11ant pointed out that the right window in child’s room 2 is suboptimally positioned. However, this could still be changed after submitting the building permit / planning permission application. Our architect thinks moving the window to the left would negatively affect the house’s exterior appearance. We’ll have to see about that.

Grundriss Kellergeschoss mit 3 Kellerräumen, Abstellraum, Flur, Haustechnik und Treppe.


Grundriss eines Hauses mit Keller, Flur KG, Haustechnik KG, Abstellraum KG und Treppen


Grundriss eines Hauses: Garage, Büro, Garderobe, Diele, WC, Küche, Wohn-/Essbereich.


Grundriss Dachgeschoss: Schlafzimmer, Ankleide, Bad, Dusche, zwei Kinderzimmer, Flur HWR Dachterrasse


Technischer Grundriss: Zentraler, ungenutzter DG-Bereich (193 m²) mit umlaufenden Dachschrägen.


Schnitt durch mehrstöckiges Wohnhaus mit Keller, Treppe, Dachkonstruktion und Maßlinien.


Moderne Wohnhausansicht: zweigeschossiges Gebäude mit Garage links und großen Fenstern.


Architektonischer Haus-Elevationsplan: Keller bis Dachgeschoss, Dach, Fenster, Geländeprofil.


Moderne zweigeschossige Hausansicht mit Flachdach, Balkonen, großen Fenstern und Garage.


Zweistöckiges Haus mit dunkler Fassade, grauem Dach, Balkon rechts und Garten mit Bäumen.
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Pumbaa
11 Jun 2018 20:50
Arifas schrieb:

For example, our parapet height is still incorrect. But since the window with the roller shutter was already installed, the expert said it didn’t make sense to fuss over a few centimeters (inches). That was fine with us.

That’s what I mean by being pragmatic. There are certainly aspects like waterproofing where no compromises are possible and everything must be done correctly. But there are also things where you don’t have to strictly follow every regulation right away. A good expert can distinguish between these.

In my acquaintances’ case, the window would have been removed and corrected, which probably would have caused much more damage to the hallway.
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Alex85
11 Jun 2018 21:50
Just like with the dimpled membrane, which is probably the issue with the perimeter insulation. You hear various opinions on this. Of course, you can quote the relevant standard to support your view. But the question is whether it’s worth the argument.

If the surveyor shows no willingness to compromise, they will hire a counter-surveyor. Eventually, too many issues escalate, and it ends up in court. What do you gain if surveyors start acting like lawyers?
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R.Hotzenplotz
11 Jun 2018 22:52
Alex85 schrieb:
What do you gain if experts behave like lawyers?

The question is how the homeowner can tell whether a criticism is worth contesting or not. Regarding the insulation, the expert said he was not joking around, and as soon as someone intervenes, the vapor barrier is damaged, which is supposedly the reason it has to be installed differently.

This then raises the question of why you would hire an expert at all.

The expert is not a stickler for rules. For example, the electrician also asked whether it’s allowed to run any cables next to a wastewater pipe despite the standards. He considered that uncritical.
Arifas11 Jun 2018 23:30
As a complete layperson, I wouldn’t want to overlook any errors that affect functionality. However, if the issue is purely cosmetic and tolerable, then I might be more lenient.
11ant11 Jun 2018 23:50
haydee schrieb:
When casting, the ceiling must be curved upwards so that it does not sag later.

I can’t quite visualize how the formwork should be constructed for that.
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R.Hotzenplotz
12 Jun 2018 00:42
11ant schrieb:
I don’t know what went wrong—possibly related to the reduction of floor-to-ceiling heights shortly before the approval.

I have checked. It has nothing to do with that. The dimensions have always been 1.01 x 2.01 meters (3.3 x 6.6 feet) in all drafts.

I don’t know what I should do tomorrow. I will take another look and try it out. But I am sure I won’t be happy with it.

Only professional advice will probably help here.

I just measured in our apartment. The patio doors to the roof terrace actually have about 2.10 meters (6.9 feet) clear opening. I hadn’t really considered that. It’s a mystery to me how someone wants to build lower. And supposedly these 1.84-meter (6.0-foot) openings are already considered oversized... Apparently, we had discussed this with the architect back then and only after that did he design it this way. I don’t remember the details now.