ᐅ Floor plan design shortly before submitting the building permit application
Created on: 2 Oct 2017 23:25
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R.Hotzenplotz
Hello everyone!
As some users have requested before, I’m now starting a new thread with the current planning of our detached house, which is about to be finalized.
These are the preliminary drawings for the building permit / planning permission application, and I have one last chance to review them and point out any issues.
It still seems to me that there is less than 1.20m (4 feet) of space between the two wardrobes in the dressing room. Or am I seeing this wrong? Apparently, the rooms on the left and right were overlooked and not adjusted accordingly.
Two Velux ceiling spotlights are still planned to illuminate the upper floor hallway.
In the basement, on the right side in the upper room, a window similar to the one on the left basement side is an option.
We still haven’t decided on the T30 fire-rated door to the garage, even though it is shown in the plans. Most likely, for safety reasons and the limited use of the kitchen at the other end of the house, we will eventually forgo it.
User 11ant pointed out that the right window in child’s room 2 is suboptimally positioned. However, this could still be changed after submitting the building permit / planning permission application. Our architect thinks moving the window to the left would negatively affect the house’s exterior appearance. We’ll have to see about that.
As some users have requested before, I’m now starting a new thread with the current planning of our detached house, which is about to be finalized.
These are the preliminary drawings for the building permit / planning permission application, and I have one last chance to review them and point out any issues.
It still seems to me that there is less than 1.20m (4 feet) of space between the two wardrobes in the dressing room. Or am I seeing this wrong? Apparently, the rooms on the left and right were overlooked and not adjusted accordingly.
Two Velux ceiling spotlights are still planned to illuminate the upper floor hallway.
In the basement, on the right side in the upper room, a window similar to the one on the left basement side is an option.
We still haven’t decided on the T30 fire-rated door to the garage, even though it is shown in the plans. Most likely, for safety reasons and the limited use of the kitchen at the other end of the house, we will eventually forgo it.
User 11ant pointed out that the right window in child’s room 2 is suboptimally positioned. However, this could still be changed after submitting the building permit / planning permission application. Our architect thinks moving the window to the left would negatively affect the house’s exterior appearance. We’ll have to see about that.
R.Hotzenplotz schrieb:
And supposedly these 1.84 little holes are already oversized...... There used to be a standard size for interior doors of 885 x 1885 millimeters (35 x 74 inches), but I haven’t seen that in about thirty years. Nowadays, doors in general are usually around 2010 millimeters (79 inches), but patio doors are often taller. Common heights for those are about 2135, 2200, or 2260 millimeters (84, 87, or 89 inches), roughly equally frequent—though I haven’t counted precisely. Unfortunately, what the stated dimensions refer to can vary. For example, 2260 millimeters (89 inches) rough opening minus 160 millimeters (6 inches) for floor buildup leaves only about 2100 millimeters (83 inches) clear height.
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R.Hotzenplotz12 Jun 2018 00:52The DIN18101 standard at least includes the dimension we have here.
I’m curious to see which standard the expert will come up with to justify a professionally incorrect design and execution.
Here is the relevant excerpt from the contract.
I was basing this on the clear passage height. Apparently, that was simply wrong. I should have noticed it earlier, especially since the increased interior door height is listed directly below... really frustrating!!
I’m curious to see which standard the expert will come up with to justify a professionally incorrect design and execution.
Here is the relevant excerpt from the contract.
I was basing this on the clear passage height. Apparently, that was simply wrong. I should have noticed it earlier, especially since the increased interior door height is listed directly below... really frustrating!!
R.Hotzenplotz schrieb:
At least DIN18101 specifies the dimension we have. However, it seems to me—without having found a more relevant standard—that this applies to interior doors. I am not aware of any building regulation specifying the clear passage dimension. Thanks to my average height, I've never needed to measure doors, but I would consider a rough opening size of 188.5cm (74 inches) appropriate for a time when an 80th birthday still prompted the mayor’s attendance.
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R.Hotzenplotz12 Jun 2018 01:19I also find the contract wording ambiguous. They write "hereby" (due to the 201cm (79 inches)?) a 15cm (6 inches) step is created.
Why does the step result from a specific door height?
For the interior doors below, there is also a separate reference to the shell construction height, which is missing for the patio doors.
Do you find the contract wording precise?
Why does the step result from a specific door height?
For the interior doors below, there is also a separate reference to the shell construction height, which is missing for the patio doors.
Do you find the contract wording precise?
The 15cm (6 inches) step is not coincidentally the missing difference in the clear passage height?
Then the door would actually be the correct size; it’s just installed too low because a threshold was agreed upon.
The window in the next room also has a sill height of 12.5cm (5 inches) entered instead of 0, even though its dimensions are identical to the door and, according to the elevations, the top edge of all glazing on the floor should be the same.
Something is definitely off here?!
Then the door would actually be the correct size; it’s just installed too low because a threshold was agreed upon.
The window in the next room also has a sill height of 12.5cm (5 inches) entered instead of 0, even though its dimensions are identical to the door and, according to the elevations, the top edge of all glazing on the floor should be the same.
Something is definitely off here?!
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R.Hotzenplotz12 Jun 2018 07:56Alex85 schrieb:
Is the 15cm (6 inches) step not coincidentally the missing difference in the clear door height?I have an appointment there at 9 a.m. and will show up armed with a tape measure.
The clear door height was 184cm (72.4 inches). I think that with the top and bottom frames, it should already reach about 201cm (79.1 inches), so the additional 15cm (6 inches) should be visible. But I could be mistaken.
The sill height applies only to windows, not doors. The key question will be whether the door frame starts exactly where the window frame does. That would have to be at 12.5cm (5 inches).
You’re probably right and something doesn’t add up.
Still, the much bigger challenge is to assess whether by approving the planning I take full responsibility for this mess, or whether it’s so negligent or even against regulations that it can still be contested.
They say they discussed with me how it will be executed; yes! But they didn’t clarify whether I’m aware that as a person 189cm (6 feet 2 inches) tall, I have only a 184cm (72.4 inches) clearance. As I understand it, they include the threshold in their calculations and see no issue at all. They also don’t understand the concern.
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