ᐅ Floor plan design shortly before submitting the building permit application

Created on: 2 Oct 2017 23:25
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R.Hotzenplotz
Hello everyone!

As some users have requested before, I’m now starting a new thread with the current planning of our detached house, which is about to be finalized.

These are the preliminary drawings for the building permit / planning permission application, and I have one last chance to review them and point out any issues.

It still seems to me that there is less than 1.20m (4 feet) of space between the two wardrobes in the dressing room. Or am I seeing this wrong? Apparently, the rooms on the left and right were overlooked and not adjusted accordingly.

Two Velux ceiling spotlights are still planned to illuminate the upper floor hallway.

In the basement, on the right side in the upper room, a window similar to the one on the left basement side is an option.

We still haven’t decided on the T30 fire-rated door to the garage, even though it is shown in the plans. Most likely, for safety reasons and the limited use of the kitchen at the other end of the house, we will eventually forgo it.

User 11ant pointed out that the right window in child’s room 2 is suboptimally positioned. However, this could still be changed after submitting the building permit / planning permission application. Our architect thinks moving the window to the left would negatively affect the house’s exterior appearance. We’ll have to see about that.

Grundriss Kellergeschoss mit 3 Kellerräumen, Abstellraum, Flur, Haustechnik und Treppe.


Grundriss eines Hauses mit Keller, Flur KG, Haustechnik KG, Abstellraum KG und Treppen


Grundriss eines Hauses: Garage, Büro, Garderobe, Diele, WC, Küche, Wohn-/Essbereich.


Grundriss Dachgeschoss: Schlafzimmer, Ankleide, Bad, Dusche, zwei Kinderzimmer, Flur HWR Dachterrasse


Technischer Grundriss: Zentraler, ungenutzter DG-Bereich (193 m²) mit umlaufenden Dachschrägen.


Schnitt durch mehrstöckiges Wohnhaus mit Keller, Treppe, Dachkonstruktion und Maßlinien.


Moderne Wohnhausansicht: zweigeschossiges Gebäude mit Garage links und großen Fenstern.


Architektonischer Haus-Elevationsplan: Keller bis Dachgeschoss, Dach, Fenster, Geländeprofil.


Moderne zweigeschossige Hausansicht mit Flachdach, Balkonen, großen Fenstern und Garage.


Zweistöckiges Haus mit dunkler Fassade, grauem Dach, Balkon rechts und Garten mit Bäumen.
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R.Hotzenplotz
27 May 2018 16:40
ypg schrieb:
To me, reading the recent posts, it seems like you haven’t adapted your behavior to an area where people already more or less accept each other as neighbors and live side by side.

But you haven’t read all the posts properly. First, it’s only one neighbor where such tensions exist, and secondly, there are at least one other neighbor with similar “problems.” If you believe that neighbor (who is also in the new development), then the mentioned neighbor is not accepted or integrated into the established neighborhood. Several people have hinted to them that it’s a great neighborhood... except for... that’s how they explained it to me. And I didn’t bring up the topic, because I don’t believe in talking about one neighbor to another.

Several other neighbors are actually happy that we’re moving in; so we can’t be that overly formal or overly correct. We’ve even sat together in the garden sometimes, exchanged conversations, etc. — they watch the construction site and get in touch if something comes up...

I find it quite serious to indirectly defend the one who simply throws green waste onto someone else’s property like a bull in a china shop and then tries to blame us for it. Neighbors might be irritating, but I would never, for God’s sake, interfere with their property without permission, and anything concerning both parties would be discussed in advance — even with the grumpiest person.
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ypg
27 May 2018 16:46
R.Hotzenplotz schrieb:
You didn’t read all the posts properly...

We have a difference of opinion here.
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R.Hotzenplotz
27 May 2018 16:51
ypg schrieb:
We have different opinions there

Okay, accepted!

Could you still kindly show me where you get the impression that the neighbors “more or less accept each other and live side by side”? I can’t understand how what I wrote could be interpreted that way.

Who are you referring to? I actually only wrote about the neighbors with the second new building, and it certainly wasn’t implied that there was acceptance there. I would like to understand that. Of course, you might assess that this other new resident lied with their statement, and that other neighbors have also had bad experiences with the people in question. Would that then mean they are equally out of place and not fitting in the neighborhood as we are?
kaho67427 May 2018 17:53
I think as long as the neighbor doesn’t have a party on the terrace until midnight, like Lumpi’s neighbor did:...

I don’t believe you’ve done anything wrong here. On the other hand, I also don’t think you’ve considered how to ease the situation. The question is whether you want to meet the neighbor halfway again, even though you are in the right. A disarming gesture could be, for example, a hug.

Coffee and cake might also help. How important is this matter to you?
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R.Hotzenplotz
27 May 2018 18:42
kaho674 schrieb:
How important is the matter to you?

For me, it’s mainly about principle. I’m not a servant to a neighbor, and I already have more than enough to deal with when it comes to building the house. But above all, I’m concerned that people like that will take advantage more and more the more you let them get away with it.

Let’s put it this way: if I knew we could have peace in the future and everyone would live in harmony, then I’d sleep well even if these issues weren’t dealt with. But that also means I lose all respect and don’t want to discuss anything beyond the bare minimum.

I had even considered trying to ease the situation before it escalated. He once said that the old chain-link fence on the property boundary was bothering him. The suggestion was to have it removed along with the construction waste. He was even allowed to place it on our property. But what did he do? The fence is still standing today, and instead, some vegetation, which was never mentioned before, was dumped on our side.

Well, we will sort it out, and for now I prefer to focus back on the construction-related tasks around our project.
kaho67427 May 2018 19:19
I believe only you on site can accurately assess the situation. I also disagree with allowing stubborn people to get their way all the time and constantly giving in. I’m not afraid to speak my mind to them – that’s exactly what they need.

Otherwise, I tend to be more peace-loving.