Hello,
first, a brief summary of our current situation:
In our future place of residence (village), according to Telekom, only a "slow" DSL connection would be possible. Fortunately, last year Deutsche Glasfaser launched a so-called demand aggregation for the community, which was successful. Therefore, in the next few weeks/months, the village will be supplied with fiber optic cables.
I have already placed an order with Deutsche Glasfaser for our plot for internet ("DG Classic, 400Mbit/s") and TV (IPTV, which I understand means television over the internet cable) and thus save the connection fee of 750 EUR.
Now my question
first, a brief summary of our current situation:
- currently still renting
- currently a customer of Telekom (internet + phone)
- already owner of an undeveloped plot of land (not yet connected to utilities)
- construction contract signed with general contractor, planned start of construction mid-March, guaranteed construction period ~ 6 months, so move-in expected around September, more likely October
- all electrical work included in the construction contract, no owner-provided work specified
- number of sockets, network outlets, etc., according to the construction contract very few, so we will need to add quite a few
- no basement
In our future place of residence (village), according to Telekom, only a "slow" DSL connection would be possible. Fortunately, last year Deutsche Glasfaser launched a so-called demand aggregation for the community, which was successful. Therefore, in the next few weeks/months, the village will be supplied with fiber optic cables.
I have already placed an order with Deutsche Glasfaser for our plot for internet ("DG Classic, 400Mbit/s") and TV (IPTV, which I understand means television over the internet cable) and thus save the connection fee of 750 EUR.
Now my question
- Upon inquiry, Deutsche Glasfaser told me that construction work in the community is planned to start in the coming weeks but will last a few months, so our connection will probably only be activated by the end of 2019 / beginning of 2020. If they are not ready by the time our other utilities (gas, water...) are connected to the house, they advise us to pre-install an empty conduit from the property boundary to the utility room as a preparatory measure. What would be the best solution in the meantime? We will move in in September/October. Assuming DG’s construction takes longer than planned, we would be in our nice new house without TV/television/phone.
Should we first continue ordering internet/TV connections from Telekom during our construction? Our contract there is still valid anyway. Although the connection would cost about 800 EUR, I would get the later DG TV connection free of charge.
SenorRaul7 schrieb:
Nice that you like it. However, I rely on having an internet connection at home for work. So, I don’t find it that great. The IPTV option would only be interesting once fiber optic is available.Oh, I misunderstood you. Your initial post was purely about television.
Anyway, the situation is simple, especially if you need it for work:
- Internet: Telecom provider (LTE would be too risky or unstable for professional use)
- Phone: Telecom provider, VOIP, SIP, or mobile phone
- For TV, the options mentioned
As soon as fiber optic is available, you take that. Nobody really knows when it will actually be activated.
A very simple solution.
@Nordlys
No one can be blamed for not believing in the government office that the internet will eventually become widespread.
But please don’t make a joke out of installing modern network wiring for a (presumably) young person who plans to use their house for decades to come.
No one can be blamed for not believing in the government office that the internet will eventually become widespread.
But please don’t make a joke out of installing modern network wiring for a (presumably) young person who plans to use their house for decades to come.
Nordlys schrieb:
He is asking for an alternative for three to four months, and you are overwhelming him with technical jargon that he didn’t ask for and might not even understand. That’s my point.However, dhd82’s post did not contain any technical jargon but rather a very good contribution regarding the future-proof equipment of his new house. Unfortunately, this is still not standard practice nowadays.
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readytorumble15 Feb 2019 10:22Based on my experience with Deutsche Glasfaser, I don’t see any temporary solution for just a few months here. DG has never met their announced timelines during the demand aggregation phase anywhere. It will take at least 1 year, more likely 2 years, or longer. If you depend on the internet, I would therefore still have the Telekom connection installed.
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SenorRaul715 Feb 2019 11:19Unfortunately, I have no knowledge about the technology, wiring, or general possibilities. However, I like to educate myself on these topics because I prefer not to rely blindly on any specialists. So thanks in advance for your ideas!
Mainly, my original idea is confirmed... I’m breaking it down and asking very simply as a complete beginner:
1) Internet & Telephone
First, as part of arranging the other necessary connections (gas, water), have a standard (copper?) line installed by the main provider and use my existing contract to get DSL or the best possible internet at the new address.
Cost: approx. 800 EUR. However, because of the planned build, I have already secured a “builder’s credit” of 300 EUR with my current Magenta contract. So the net connection costs are only 500 EUR.
During the installation works, take advantage of the open floor to lay a conduit for future use as suggested by the structural engineer.
2) TV
- Either set up a satellite system, which will become “useless” once the structural engineer’s connection is activated.
(To what extent am I contractually tied to anyone? Or are these really just one-time costs, after which I can receive even private channels?) I’m not keen on signing a new large 2-year contract anywhere. If the structural engineer’s connection is established faster than expected, I would end up paying double for a long time.
- Or DVB-T2? Or is that the same as satellite? Sorry, as I said, I have no idea. In our current rental apartment, a white antenna cable just comes out of the wall in two rooms, and TV works with that.
Mainly, my original idea is confirmed... I’m breaking it down and asking very simply as a complete beginner:
1) Internet & Telephone
First, as part of arranging the other necessary connections (gas, water), have a standard (copper?) line installed by the main provider and use my existing contract to get DSL or the best possible internet at the new address.
Cost: approx. 800 EUR. However, because of the planned build, I have already secured a “builder’s credit” of 300 EUR with my current Magenta contract. So the net connection costs are only 500 EUR.
During the installation works, take advantage of the open floor to lay a conduit for future use as suggested by the structural engineer.
2) TV
- Either set up a satellite system, which will become “useless” once the structural engineer’s connection is activated.
(To what extent am I contractually tied to anyone? Or are these really just one-time costs, after which I can receive even private channels?) I’m not keen on signing a new large 2-year contract anywhere. If the structural engineer’s connection is established faster than expected, I would end up paying double for a long time.
- Or DVB-T2? Or is that the same as satellite? Sorry, as I said, I have no idea. In our current rental apartment, a white antenna cable just comes out of the wall in two rooms, and TV works with that.
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