Hello,
first, a brief summary of our current situation:
In our future place of residence (village), according to Telekom, only a "slow" DSL connection would be possible. Fortunately, last year Deutsche Glasfaser launched a so-called demand aggregation for the community, which was successful. Therefore, in the next few weeks/months, the village will be supplied with fiber optic cables.
I have already placed an order with Deutsche Glasfaser for our plot for internet ("DG Classic, 400Mbit/s") and TV (IPTV, which I understand means television over the internet cable) and thus save the connection fee of 750 EUR.
Now my question
first, a brief summary of our current situation:
- currently still renting
- currently a customer of Telekom (internet + phone)
- already owner of an undeveloped plot of land (not yet connected to utilities)
- construction contract signed with general contractor, planned start of construction mid-March, guaranteed construction period ~ 6 months, so move-in expected around September, more likely October
- all electrical work included in the construction contract, no owner-provided work specified
- number of sockets, network outlets, etc., according to the construction contract very few, so we will need to add quite a few
- no basement
In our future place of residence (village), according to Telekom, only a "slow" DSL connection would be possible. Fortunately, last year Deutsche Glasfaser launched a so-called demand aggregation for the community, which was successful. Therefore, in the next few weeks/months, the village will be supplied with fiber optic cables.
I have already placed an order with Deutsche Glasfaser for our plot for internet ("DG Classic, 400Mbit/s") and TV (IPTV, which I understand means television over the internet cable) and thus save the connection fee of 750 EUR.
Now my question
- Upon inquiry, Deutsche Glasfaser told me that construction work in the community is planned to start in the coming weeks but will last a few months, so our connection will probably only be activated by the end of 2019 / beginning of 2020. If they are not ready by the time our other utilities (gas, water...) are connected to the house, they advise us to pre-install an empty conduit from the property boundary to the utility room as a preparatory measure. What would be the best solution in the meantime? We will move in in September/October. Assuming DG’s construction takes longer than planned, we would be in our nice new house without TV/television/phone.
Should we first continue ordering internet/TV connections from Telekom during our construction? Our contract there is still valid anyway. Although the connection would cost about 800 EUR, I would get the later DG TV connection free of charge.
Fuchur schrieb:
Of course, this is not usually done. It’s not about costs, but a solution approach in case the original poster ends up needing exactly one more port. In that case, it’s not a big deal; not every device requires gigabit LAN. By the way, almost all general contractors we have reviewed install it this way as standard.What is the point of splitting the number of ports? If I connect a double socket with one cable, I still need two ports on the patch panel and switch. Cable splitting like this has not been common practice for quite some time. A general contractor who still does it this way today should be “tarred and feathered”! Still, always communicate clearly with your general contractor and make sure to express your requirements.
hanse987 schrieb:
If I connect a double outlet with one cable, I still need 2 ports on the patch panel and switch. uhm yes, that was my mistake
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SenorRaul722 Feb 2019 16:47I hope the master electrician understands everything the way I intend.
How would you assess the amount of work involved in my case? Is it rather unusual or more standard for a modern single-family home?
Approximately how long does an electrician need for wiring, patching, connecting, installing sockets, etc.?
How would you assess the amount of work involved in my case? Is it rather unusual or more standard for a modern single-family home?
Approximately how long does an electrician need for wiring, patching, connecting, installing sockets, etc.?
Are you building with a general contractor (GC) or using individual contracts?
With individual contracts, I don’t see any problem at all.
With a GC, you never really know. But it’s certainly not standard procedure.
For an electrician, it’s an easy task.
Provide the network cabinet, patch panel, and so on.
They should give you a plan showing which cable is connected where, along with a report documenting that every connection has been tested.
With my sister’s project (poor GC, now bankrupt), we had to test everything ourselves to figure out which outlet corresponded to which port. During that process, we also discovered two outlets were wired poorly and were only running at 100 Mbps. After I rewired them, everything worked as it should.
With individual contracts, I don’t see any problem at all.
With a GC, you never really know. But it’s certainly not standard procedure.
For an electrician, it’s an easy task.
Provide the network cabinet, patch panel, and so on.
They should give you a plan showing which cable is connected where, along with a report documenting that every connection has been tested.
With my sister’s project (poor GC, now bankrupt), we had to test everything ourselves to figure out which outlet corresponded to which port. During that process, we also discovered two outlets were wired poorly and were only running at 100 Mbps. After I rewired them, everything worked as it should.
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Obstlerbaum22 Feb 2019 18:06SenorRaul7 schrieb:
I hope the certified electrician understands everything the way I want it.
How do you estimate the workload in my case? Is it rather unusual or more standard for a modern single-family home?
How long does an electrician typically need for wiring, patching, connecting, installing outlet boxes, etc.? There is no difference in pulling cables between 3x1.5 mm² and Ethernet cables. The rest depends on your construction company or the subcontracting arrangements. Just ask in advance. For us, double outlets in three rooms and a patch panel in the basement are standard; anything else is extra charge...
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