ᐅ Internet Connection: Deutsche Telekom vs. Cable Network

Created on: 17 Mar 2020 12:45
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PetitJeune
Hello everyone,

when it comes to house connections, as I understand it, you also need to contact providers like Telekom or Vodafone to have the connection installed in the house. Phone calls with their respective customer service lines are already planned. I’ve learned from the electricity provider that Deutsche Telekom apparently requires a longer lead time.

I’m still having some difficulties understanding technically whether, depending on the individual situation, it makes sense to have classic DSL (Telekom) installed or to use Vodafone’s cable network, for example.

- In our specific case, TV is received via satellite (SAT) from the roof, and a landline is not needed because of mobile phones.
- I haven’t been able to figure out whether both options generally provide the same basic requirements, or if, for example, it would make more sense to focus on Vodafone since we only need internet and no phone service.
- Is a separate telephone cable even installed these days?
- Vodafone (formerly Unity Media) is an option for us because it is available; with classic DSL, the speeds are still quite limited in our area, at least, and they also offer good prices.

What are your thoughts on Telekom or alternative providers for the house internet connection?

Thank you all, and sorry for the very amateur questions :-(
face2617 Mar 2020 16:08
Yes, all of us in the new development area were really shocked.
It was an unfortunate combination. Telekom approached the municipality and offered to gradually expand fiber optic infrastructure in the community at no cost to the municipality. The advantage was that we have a strong mid-sized industrial base and infrastructure, and Telekom was interested in providing the fiber optic infrastructure anyway.
Unitymedia, which was still KabelBW at the time, also approached the municipality and said they would build a fiber optic network if the municipality took care of the civil engineering work. The municipality just smiled and declined.
Additionally, the small new development consists of two dead-end streets. I think KabelBW figured it wasn't worth it for just a few households, or at least that those residents should pay for it.
Telekom, on the other hand, integrated it right away during the site development works.
Tarnari17 Mar 2020 18:55
We decided against cable because Unitymedia wanted €17,000 (about $18,200). Telekom’s fiber optic option was even more expensive at €19,000 (about $20,350). Originally, we wanted to install both cable and Telekom lines to have a choice. Now we are sticking with DSL, which was Telekom’s preferred option for us anyway. Initially, it was only fiber optic. I think we will end up with 100/40 Mbps. That’s what we have now, and it’s sufficient.
K1300S27 Mar 2020 08:21
Costs in the five-digit range occur whenever the network provider does not yet have any cables installed in the street. In such cases, the street has to be excavated and new cables laid specifically for the client. (However, I still suspect that they often hope the customer will simply decline the offer.) Otherwise, I can confirm that UM/Vodafone are really slow when it comes to strategic network expansion. It was the same in our development area. Although they were repeatedly asked whether they wanted to install their cables during the entire new development phase, nothing happened. I was then told the service was unavailable, while a neighbor (previously a UM customer) received an offer for around 20,000 EUR.

Unfortunately, at the time, no one dared to install fiber optic cables, so now everything runs over copper cables. At least a new DSLAM was installed for the entire development, which allows all advertised DSL speeds at cable lengths of up to 200 m (656 feet).
Tarnari27 Mar 2020 09:09
VF/UM explained to me that the existing node is overbooked, so a new one would be needed for our house. This, combined with the work on public land, would determine the total cost.
rick201827 Mar 2020 13:50
We had everything installed.
- Cables, which we also use for the internet. High speeds and real IPv4 address have been added. The TV function will not be activated. We will use IPTV.
- Telecom connection is installed but not activated. Currently, good speeds are not available at the address anyway.
- Conduit installed so that fiber optic cable can be blown in later.

This gives us options to switch and remain flexible in the future.
If you want to limit yourself to one medium, speed would be the deciding factor for me.
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guckuck2
27 Mar 2020 18:55
FTTH > Cable > Copper/DSL