Hello,
first, a brief summary of our current situation:
In our future place of residence (village), according to Telekom, only a "slow" DSL connection would be possible. Fortunately, last year Deutsche Glasfaser launched a so-called demand aggregation for the community, which was successful. Therefore, in the next few weeks/months, the village will be supplied with fiber optic cables.
I have already placed an order with Deutsche Glasfaser for our plot for internet ("DG Classic, 400Mbit/s") and TV (IPTV, which I understand means television over the internet cable) and thus save the connection fee of 750 EUR.
Now my question
first, a brief summary of our current situation:
- currently still renting
- currently a customer of Telekom (internet + phone)
- already owner of an undeveloped plot of land (not yet connected to utilities)
- construction contract signed with general contractor, planned start of construction mid-March, guaranteed construction period ~ 6 months, so move-in expected around September, more likely October
- all electrical work included in the construction contract, no owner-provided work specified
- number of sockets, network outlets, etc., according to the construction contract very few, so we will need to add quite a few
- no basement
In our future place of residence (village), according to Telekom, only a "slow" DSL connection would be possible. Fortunately, last year Deutsche Glasfaser launched a so-called demand aggregation for the community, which was successful. Therefore, in the next few weeks/months, the village will be supplied with fiber optic cables.
I have already placed an order with Deutsche Glasfaser for our plot for internet ("DG Classic, 400Mbit/s") and TV (IPTV, which I understand means television over the internet cable) and thus save the connection fee of 750 EUR.
Now my question
- Upon inquiry, Deutsche Glasfaser told me that construction work in the community is planned to start in the coming weeks but will last a few months, so our connection will probably only be activated by the end of 2019 / beginning of 2020. If they are not ready by the time our other utilities (gas, water...) are connected to the house, they advise us to pre-install an empty conduit from the property boundary to the utility room as a preparatory measure. What would be the best solution in the meantime? We will move in in September/October. Assuming DG’s construction takes longer than planned, we would be in our nice new house without TV/television/phone.
Should we first continue ordering internet/TV connections from Telekom during our construction? Our contract there is still valid anyway. Although the connection would cost about 800 EUR, I would get the later DG TV connection free of charge.
The Keystone module is like a small socket where the patch cable is plugged in. It is also used in larger patch panels, allowing it to be easily moved to a different panel or location without having to remove and re-terminate the permanent cabling.
Since the module is quite small, you can simply cover the hole in the ceiling with the access point.
Duplex cable is usually more cost-effective because it is installed as a single cable. Otherwise, there are no significant advantages or disadvantages. You can also install everything with individual cables, which might be cheaper depending on the quantity needed and the roll size availability.
I would recommend using conduit. If you want to make changes later, it is much easier.
Unifi is a centrally managed system. This means you can configure all switches, access points, routers, and networks through a single app or web interface.
The controller runs on the Cloudkey but can also run on a server, NAS, or similar device. In that case, you don’t need a Cloudkey.
USG is Unifi’s term for the router.
With a complete Unifi system, you can implement and manage a wide range of features easily:
Multiple networks (e.g., management, production, guest, cameras, building automation, access control, children’s network). Access between these can be controlled with firewall rules, schedules, bandwidth limits, and more.
Multiple Wi-Fi networks similar to the wired networks.
VPN
Network overview
Blocking of certain websites
Centralized system updates and backups
and much more.
I can also take some pictures for you. I currently have a (partial) complete system here for a friend’s new build.
Where do you mostly use the laptop? The access point should ideally be placed nearby and in line of sight. Otherwise, the 5 GHz coverage will be poor, and you will be stuck on the slower 2.4 GHz band.
In the ground floor, definitely position the access point in the living/dining area.
Since the module is quite small, you can simply cover the hole in the ceiling with the access point.
Duplex cable is usually more cost-effective because it is installed as a single cable. Otherwise, there are no significant advantages or disadvantages. You can also install everything with individual cables, which might be cheaper depending on the quantity needed and the roll size availability.
I would recommend using conduit. If you want to make changes later, it is much easier.
Unifi is a centrally managed system. This means you can configure all switches, access points, routers, and networks through a single app or web interface.
The controller runs on the Cloudkey but can also run on a server, NAS, or similar device. In that case, you don’t need a Cloudkey.
USG is Unifi’s term for the router.
With a complete Unifi system, you can implement and manage a wide range of features easily:
Multiple networks (e.g., management, production, guest, cameras, building automation, access control, children’s network). Access between these can be controlled with firewall rules, schedules, bandwidth limits, and more.
Multiple Wi-Fi networks similar to the wired networks.
VPN
Network overview
Blocking of certain websites
Centralized system updates and backups
and much more.
I can also take some pictures for you. I currently have a (partial) complete system here for a friend’s new build.
Where do you mostly use the laptop? The access point should ideally be placed nearby and in line of sight. Otherwise, the 5 GHz coverage will be poor, and you will be stuck on the slower 2.4 GHz band.
In the ground floor, definitely position the access point in the living/dining area.
rick2018 schrieb:
Under no circumstances should the wiring be changed or split. Double outlets require two cables or a duplex cable. Use at least Cat 7 or 8. The cable itself is not a significant cost factor. Of course, this is "normally" not done. It’s not about cost, but rather a solution in case the original poster ends up missing exactly one port. In that case, it’s not a big deal; not every device needs gigabit LAN. By the way, almost all general contractors we have checked install it this way as a standard.
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SenorRaul722 Feb 2019 10:04rick2018 schrieb:
Where do you use the laptop most? The access point should ideally be close by and within line of sight. Otherwise, the 5GHz coverage is poor, and you will be on the slower 2.4GHz network.
On the ground floor, definitely place the access point in the living/dining area.We will probably use the laptop mainly in the living/dining area, but also definitely sometimes outside on the terrace, which is directly adjacent to the living room. Maybe also occasionally in the corner of the property where a barbecue hut is planned. The question is whether the access point in the living room will reach that far.
Upstairs, the children may use a laptop later on. For that, two double sockets are planned in each room. And if the laptop does get carried around (to the bed or somewhere else), we have the access point in the gallery area, which is as central as possible. Having an access point in every room where a smartphone or laptop might be used sounds excessive to me.
I have a single Fritzbox located in the utility room. The Wi-Fi reaches the garden and even partially extends to neighboring properties. The house is solidly built with a reinforced concrete ceiling. Wi-Fi is also available on the upper floor.
I often wonder about the paranoia surrounding the installation of multiple access points in a single-family home.
For homes of 300 square meters (3,229 square feet) or larger, it might be worth considering, but in a typical-sized house, more than one access point per floor is definitely enough. It doesn’t necessarily have to be placed in the living area. A central location on a wall or ceiling is perfectly sufficient.
I often wonder about the paranoia surrounding the installation of multiple access points in a single-family home.
For homes of 300 square meters (3,229 square feet) or larger, it might be worth considering, but in a typical-sized house, more than one access point per floor is definitely enough. It doesn’t necessarily have to be placed in the living area. A central location on a wall or ceiling is perfectly sufficient.
Depending on the type of glass, the signal can be almost completely blocked. This is not a problem if the doors are open.
You could run a cable out to the terrace. If you don’t need it right away, you can always use it later for a camera.
If the signal is too weak, you can simply add another access point outside.
Maybe one day a robotic lawn mower with Wi-Fi? Then you’ll be glad to have good coverage.
But I think you’re well covered with an access point in the living/dining area and one centrally located upstairs. The rest can be connected by cable. If the use of a room changes or you need more Wi-Fi speed, you can always connect another access point to the outlet.
You could run a cable out to the terrace. If you don’t need it right away, you can always use it later for a camera.
If the signal is too weak, you can simply add another access point outside.
Maybe one day a robotic lawn mower with Wi-Fi? Then you’ll be glad to have good coverage.
But I think you’re well covered with an access point in the living/dining area and one centrally located upstairs. The rest can be connected by cable. If the use of a room changes or you need more Wi-Fi speed, you can always connect another access point to the outlet.
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