Hello,
first, a brief summary of our current situation:
In our future place of residence (village), according to Telekom, only a "slow" DSL connection would be possible. Fortunately, last year Deutsche Glasfaser launched a so-called demand aggregation for the community, which was successful. Therefore, in the next few weeks/months, the village will be supplied with fiber optic cables.
I have already placed an order with Deutsche Glasfaser for our plot for internet ("DG Classic, 400Mbit/s") and TV (IPTV, which I understand means television over the internet cable) and thus save the connection fee of 750 EUR.
Now my question
first, a brief summary of our current situation:
- currently still renting
- currently a customer of Telekom (internet + phone)
- already owner of an undeveloped plot of land (not yet connected to utilities)
- construction contract signed with general contractor, planned start of construction mid-March, guaranteed construction period ~ 6 months, so move-in expected around September, more likely October
- all electrical work included in the construction contract, no owner-provided work specified
- number of sockets, network outlets, etc., according to the construction contract very few, so we will need to add quite a few
- no basement
In our future place of residence (village), according to Telekom, only a "slow" DSL connection would be possible. Fortunately, last year Deutsche Glasfaser launched a so-called demand aggregation for the community, which was successful. Therefore, in the next few weeks/months, the village will be supplied with fiber optic cables.
I have already placed an order with Deutsche Glasfaser for our plot for internet ("DG Classic, 400Mbit/s") and TV (IPTV, which I understand means television over the internet cable) and thus save the connection fee of 750 EUR.
Now my question
- Upon inquiry, Deutsche Glasfaser told me that construction work in the community is planned to start in the coming weeks but will last a few months, so our connection will probably only be activated by the end of 2019 / beginning of 2020. If they are not ready by the time our other utilities (gas, water...) are connected to the house, they advise us to pre-install an empty conduit from the property boundary to the utility room as a preparatory measure. What would be the best solution in the meantime? We will move in in September/October. Assuming DGâs construction takes longer than planned, we would be in our nice new house without TV/television/phone.
Should we first continue ordering internet/TV connections from Telekom during our construction? Our contract there is still valid anyway. Although the connection would cost about 800 EUR, I would get the later DG TV connection free of charge.
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SenorRaul721 Feb 2019 09:05empyresystems schrieb:
There are now also satellite dishes with IP LNBs (as flat antennas). Check the Astra website or search online for SAT>IP Astra. The first result explains it clearly. This way, you donât need any satellite cables anymore. The LNB integrated into the dish converts the satellite signal directly into IP and connects straight to the router. However, you still need a SAT-IP receiver (or IP-SAT receiver) on your TVs, as there are currently no TVs with this technology built in. For smartphones, there are apps (e.g., HD+ App), and for PCs and laptops, software like DVB-Viewer lets you receive the signal directly. Your satellite signal is then distributed over your local network. This means youâre independent of your internet connection as long as your local network is intact. If the internet goes down, itâs 99% likely your internet service provider; your local network (LAN and Wi-Fi) remains unaffected. Only online content wonât be accessible. Your TV signal originally comes from the satellite and is just distributed locally over IP. Hope that was clear...?
Good luckThank you very much!
The advantages would be that I can completely avoid coaxial wiring. An extra server or converter in the utility room wouldnât be necessary, since itâs basically built directly onto the dish.
The disadvantage is that currently no TVs can process this signal directly. The set-top box I will receive from Deutsche Glasfaser will also be designed only for IPTV.
So, I would need to get YET another receiver that ideally can handle everythingâand this for every room where a TV might be placed in the future.
A difficult decision... maybe traditional satellite cables are actually more practical after all...
empyresystems21 Feb 2019 09:11I was mistaken...
Take a look at the latest Panasonic models. They are probably the first to feature an integrated TV-IP server/client.
Take a look at the latest Panasonic models. They are probably the first to feature an integrated TV-IP server/client.
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SenorRaul721 Feb 2019 09:19Okay, but I understand correctly that the IPTV set-top box from Deutsche Glasfaser will not help me with SAT over IP, right? Both signals do come in via the LAN cable, but this receiver can only process the IPTV signal. I donât know the exact model of the Deutsche Glasfaser receiver; on the website, the picture only shows the brand "amino."
empyresystems21 Feb 2019 09:25That is probably the case. However, I canât confirm this with certainty since Iâm not familiar with the boxes. Itâs possible that Deutsche Glasfaser has branded the device and/or limited its functionality so that it can only be used with their own service.
Personally, I would avoid IPTV and choose the option with SAT over IP within the local network.
One-time purchase cost, no contract commitment, the best satellite signal within the local network, and independent from your internet connection.
For me, this is the most modern and best way to receive television...
Personally, I would avoid IPTV and choose the option with SAT over IP within the local network.
One-time purchase cost, no contract commitment, the best satellite signal within the local network, and independent from your internet connection.
For me, this is the most modern and best way to receive television...
empyresystems21 Feb 2019 09:28It combines the best of both worlds.
SAT still offers the greatest variety of channels and, in my opinion, the best signal quality. In addition, distribution within the local network is all done via IP.
This saves extra coaxial cabling, is independent of the service provider, and is available on all end devices.
SAT still offers the greatest variety of channels and, in my opinion, the best signal quality. In addition, distribution within the local network is all done via IP.
This saves extra coaxial cabling, is independent of the service provider, and is available on all end devices.
SenorRaul7 schrieb:
maybe regular satellite cables are actually more practical after all...Certainly,
it is the simplest, fastest, most stable, and most cost-effective option. I wouldnât even hesitate.
And if SAT-IP becomes outdated, you can always upgrade later.
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