Hello,
first, a brief summary of our current situation:
In our future place of residence (village), according to Telekom, only a "slow" DSL connection would be possible. Fortunately, last year Deutsche Glasfaser launched a so-called demand aggregation for the community, which was successful. Therefore, in the next few weeks/months, the village will be supplied with fiber optic cables.
I have already placed an order with Deutsche Glasfaser for our plot for internet ("DG Classic, 400Mbit/s") and TV (IPTV, which I understand means television over the internet cable) and thus save the connection fee of 750 EUR.
Now my question
first, a brief summary of our current situation:
- currently still renting
- currently a customer of Telekom (internet + phone)
- already owner of an undeveloped plot of land (not yet connected to utilities)
- construction contract signed with general contractor, planned start of construction mid-March, guaranteed construction period ~ 6 months, so move-in expected around September, more likely October
- all electrical work included in the construction contract, no owner-provided work specified
- number of sockets, network outlets, etc., according to the construction contract very few, so we will need to add quite a few
- no basement
In our future place of residence (village), according to Telekom, only a "slow" DSL connection would be possible. Fortunately, last year Deutsche Glasfaser launched a so-called demand aggregation for the community, which was successful. Therefore, in the next few weeks/months, the village will be supplied with fiber optic cables.
I have already placed an order with Deutsche Glasfaser for our plot for internet ("DG Classic, 400Mbit/s") and TV (IPTV, which I understand means television over the internet cable) and thus save the connection fee of 750 EUR.
Now my question
- Upon inquiry, Deutsche Glasfaser told me that construction work in the community is planned to start in the coming weeks but will last a few months, so our connection will probably only be activated by the end of 2019 / beginning of 2020. If they are not ready by the time our other utilities (gas, water...) are connected to the house, they advise us to pre-install an empty conduit from the property boundary to the utility room as a preparatory measure. What would be the best solution in the meantime? We will move in in September/October. Assuming DG’s construction takes longer than planned, we would be in our nice new house without TV/television/phone.
Should we first continue ordering internet/TV connections from Telekom during our construction? Our contract there is still valid anyway. Although the connection would cost about 800 EUR, I would get the later DG TV connection free of charge.
Ground floor and router. Sort of. It needs to be centrally located, then yes. But the phone and internet usually arrive in the utility room, which in our case is in the northwest corner of the house. The solution: we have fiber optic. From the fiber modem mounted on the wall in the utility room, I run a network cable to a devolo adapter that feeds the signal into the house’s electrical circuit. It basically uses the 230-volt (230 V) power line via a socket and does not interfere at all. In my office, which is located right in the center of the house, I pick up the signal and place the router there. The PC and landline phone connect to the router by cable. The router provides Wi-Fi, which is strong at the TV, in the bedroom, and guest room, and also good on the terrace. Overall, this setup delivers about 42,000 real speed on a 50,000 contract, according to various speed tests on sites like Chip and similar. Works well for me. The router is the Telekom Speedport Smart, a very simple and capable device.
Karsten
Karsten
If I were you, I would follow hanse987’s suggestion and disable the Wi-Fi on your router (e.g., Telekom Speedport or a FritzBox) and provide Wi-Fi through access points instead. Depending on how you set up the network, you may not necessarily need the router provided by your service provider and can handle it more elegantly.
When choosing the access points, we made sure they support PoE (Power over Ethernet). This means the devices receive power through the network cable, which is already required anyway. However, this does not eliminate the need for a second power outlet in the ceiling.
For this to work, the other end (your switch in the utility room, where all network cables are connected) must also support PoE.
When choosing the access points, we made sure they support PoE (Power over Ethernet). This means the devices receive power through the network cable, which is already required anyway. However, this does not eliminate the need for a second power outlet in the ceiling.
For this to work, the other end (your switch in the utility room, where all network cables are connected) must also support PoE.
Nordlys schrieb:
Ground floor and router. Sort of. It needs to be centrally located, then yes. But the phone and internet usually come into the utility room, which in our case is in the northwest corner of the house. Solution: We have fiber optic. From the fiber modem, which is mounted on the wall in the utility room, I run a network cable to a devolo adapter, which then feeds the signal into the house’s power line network. The signal basically runs via the power outlets over the 230 volts (110/120 volts) wiring without any interference. In my office, which is located right in the middle of the house, I pick up the signal and place the router there. The PC and the landline phone connect to this router by cable. The router creates a Wi-Fi network that I have strong signals from at the TV, bedroom, and guest room, as well as on the terrace. With a 50,000 (50k) contract, the real speed reaches 42,000 (42k) according to various speed tests on Chip and similar sites. That’s enough for me. The router is Telekom’s Speedport Smart, a very simple and capable device.
KarstenWithout wanting to offend you, this setup is not the ideal choice for new construction. This type of installation is more common for retrofitting existing buildings. A Speedport or Fritzbox is sufficient for a pure in-house network. However, if you want network connections outdoors as well, these devices are no longer adequate. In that case, you need to work with VLANs (separate networks within your network) to prevent anyone from connecting to your outdoor ports and gaining full access to your entire network.
In one point, I have to disagree with dhd82. In my opinion, when dealing with 1-2 PoE devices, it’s common to use a regular switch and power those devices using so-called PoE injectors. PoE injectors are power supplies placed between the switch and the PoE device, usually right after the switch. A PoE-capable switch usually only becomes worthwhile if there are additional PoE devices involved, such as cameras.
@SenorRaul7: Just post your plan with your requirements.
@SenorRaul7: Just post your plan with your requirements.
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