ᐅ Dispute Between Telecom Provider and Municipal Utilities – House Connection
Created on: 1 Dec 2018 11:42
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loxor
Hello everyone,
This is about our house connection. The multi-utility connection is in place, and in two weeks the local utility company will install gas, water, and electricity. The telecom provider has also been contracted, and so far, the utility company used to install a duct conduit for the telecom as well.
According to the utility company, this no longer happens because negotiations with the telecom provider failed. Now, they are installing a duct / speedpipe for a fiber optic connection. However, the street is not yet connected to the fiber network. The utility company informed me that this connection leaves no room for additional cables in the multi-utility connection, and a new separate house entry point will be required for the telecom.
I don’t fully understand the situation:
The following was ordered:
1. Utility company house connections for gas, water, electricity
2. Telecom: Telephone / Internet (copper cable)
Now the question is whether we actually need a new house entry point (there is no basement). Does that mean a core drilling is necessary?
I thought that multiple cables could be installed through the 4th duct in the multi-utility connection.
We originally planned to choose both the telecom provider and Unitymedia as Internet / telephone providers, or at least have both cables installed initially.
Can you help me? Do we really need to create a new house entry point in our utility room now?
This is about our house connection. The multi-utility connection is in place, and in two weeks the local utility company will install gas, water, and electricity. The telecom provider has also been contracted, and so far, the utility company used to install a duct conduit for the telecom as well.
According to the utility company, this no longer happens because negotiations with the telecom provider failed. Now, they are installing a duct / speedpipe for a fiber optic connection. However, the street is not yet connected to the fiber network. The utility company informed me that this connection leaves no room for additional cables in the multi-utility connection, and a new separate house entry point will be required for the telecom.
I don’t fully understand the situation:
The following was ordered:
1. Utility company house connections for gas, water, electricity
2. Telecom: Telephone / Internet (copper cable)
Now the question is whether we actually need a new house entry point (there is no basement). Does that mean a core drilling is necessary?
I thought that multiple cables could be installed through the 4th duct in the multi-utility connection.
We originally planned to choose both the telecom provider and Unitymedia as Internet / telephone providers, or at least have both cables installed initially.
Can you help me? Do we really need to create a new house entry point in our utility room now?
loxor schrieb:
The utility company informed me that this connection does not allow space for additional cables in the multi-utility connection box, and a new separate building entry point would be required for the telecom provider. They’re just trying to make things difficult for the telecom company or push them out. How narrow could that conduit possibly be that three cables couldn’t fit through it?
The funny thing is, fiber optic cables aren’t affected by nearby electromagnetic cables, no matter the frequency range.
It seems their strategy is this: for cost reasons, you’re supposed to decline the telecom’s offer, and then get so frustrated with satellite and mobile internet that you’ll be among the first to subscribe to their fiber connection when it becomes available.
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11ant schrieb:
They just want to annoy / edge out Telekom. So far, I have experienced the opposite in this context. Telekom is actually the biggest obstacle to network expansion, but that would require a separate discussion.
11ant schrieb:
The joke is that fiber optic cables are not affected by the proximity of cables carrying magnetic fields, regardless of the frequency range. But no network operator will approve that. Only one medium should be placed in an empty conduit; anything else is a mess, especially when different network operators are involved. Connecting to two networks in the same street can create liability issues and unresolved questions about who is responsible and authorized, which cannot be satisfactorily addressed for everyone.
In the end, Telekom and the municipal utilities have their own interests that overlap, and it seems the municipal utilities do not want to do the "dirty work" for Telekom.
Lumpi_LE schrieb:
We also had a separate conduit for fiber optic cable, but the idiots pulled it together with the power cables through the same conduit... Why idiots? I call such people pragmatists. They know fiber optic is a good neighbor.
dertill schrieb:
Only one medium should go into one conduit; everything else is a mess, especially with different network providers. A conduit already filled with one cable has misunderstood its purpose as an empty conduit and is just a pull duct. IT communication is one medium. For copper, I understand the desire for separation, but there is no interference between fiber optic and electrical cables. Those are childish power games.
dertill schrieb:
In the end, the telecom company and the local utility have their own interests that overlap, and it seems the utility doesn’t want to do the “dirty work” for the telecom company. I said nothing different...
dertill schrieb:
The telecom company is the biggest network expansion blocker there is, ... and I would never deny that they can be lumped together as hypocrites.
This could well be a retaliation: it might be that the utility (in this or another development) has not laid their fiber optic yet because the telecom company’s exclusivity period has not expired.
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