Hello,
first, a brief summary of our current situation:
In our future place of residence (village), according to Telekom, only a "slow" DSL connection would be possible. Fortunately, last year Deutsche Glasfaser launched a so-called demand aggregation for the community, which was successful. Therefore, in the next few weeks/months, the village will be supplied with fiber optic cables.
I have already placed an order with Deutsche Glasfaser for our plot for internet ("DG Classic, 400Mbit/s") and TV (IPTV, which I understand means television over the internet cable) and thus save the connection fee of 750 EUR.
Now my question
first, a brief summary of our current situation:
- currently still renting
- currently a customer of Telekom (internet + phone)
- already owner of an undeveloped plot of land (not yet connected to utilities)
- construction contract signed with general contractor, planned start of construction mid-March, guaranteed construction period ~ 6 months, so move-in expected around September, more likely October
- all electrical work included in the construction contract, no owner-provided work specified
- number of sockets, network outlets, etc., according to the construction contract very few, so we will need to add quite a few
- no basement
In our future place of residence (village), according to Telekom, only a "slow" DSL connection would be possible. Fortunately, last year Deutsche Glasfaser launched a so-called demand aggregation for the community, which was successful. Therefore, in the next few weeks/months, the village will be supplied with fiber optic cables.
I have already placed an order with Deutsche Glasfaser for our plot for internet ("DG Classic, 400Mbit/s") and TV (IPTV, which I understand means television over the internet cable) and thus save the connection fee of 750 EUR.
Now my question
- Upon inquiry, Deutsche Glasfaser told me that construction work in the community is planned to start in the coming weeks but will last a few months, so our connection will probably only be activated by the end of 2019 / beginning of 2020. If they are not ready by the time our other utilities (gas, water...) are connected to the house, they advise us to pre-install an empty conduit from the property boundary to the utility room as a preparatory measure. What would be the best solution in the meantime? We will move in in September/October. Assuming DG’s construction takes longer than planned, we would be in our nice new house without TV/television/phone.
Should we first continue ordering internet/TV connections from Telekom during our construction? Our contract there is still valid anyway. Although the connection would cost about 800 EUR, I would get the later DG TV connection free of charge.
The ceiling or wall outlet refers to a power cable that you can switch, for example, typically for a ceiling light.
You should ask for the price of a network cable as a ceiling outlet separately.
You should also request the price for a CAT 7 duplex cable (two cables), since you currently only have the price for a single cable. The duplex cable shouldn’t cost significantly more because the installation effort hardly changes. Later on, you just need a double wall socket.
I assume you will be using VOIP (Voice over IP) for phone calls later. In that case, you can negotiate to use CAT 7 duplex cables instead of three separate phone lines. We did this in our construction project as well. Every room included an empty conduit for telephone wiring as standard, and since we didn’t need it, we had the network cables installed in that conduit instead.
You should ask for the price of a network cable as a ceiling outlet separately.
You should also request the price for a CAT 7 duplex cable (two cables), since you currently only have the price for a single cable. The duplex cable shouldn’t cost significantly more because the installation effort hardly changes. Later on, you just need a double wall socket.
I assume you will be using VOIP (Voice over IP) for phone calls later. In that case, you can negotiate to use CAT 7 duplex cables instead of three separate phone lines. We did this in our construction project as well. Every room included an empty conduit for telephone wiring as standard, and since we didn’t need it, we had the network cables installed in that conduit instead.
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SenorRaul725 Feb 2019 09:22dhd82 schrieb:
The ceiling or wall outlet refers to an electrical cable that you can switch, for example, typically used for a ceiling light.
You should request the price for a network cable as a ceiling outlet separately.
Also, ask for the price of a CAT 7 duplex cable (two cables), since you currently only have the price for a single cable (a duplex cable shouldn’t cost significantly more, as the installation effort hardly changes. You just need a double socket later).
I assume you will be using VOIP (Voice over IP) for phone calls in the future. In that case, you could negotiate to replace the three telephone lines with CAT 7 duplex cables. We did this in our build project, where a conduit for telephone wiring was included as standard in each room, and since we didn’t need it, we had the network cables installed in the conduit instead. Good idea, I will bring that up.
What I still don’t fully understand about VOIP:
Does my conversation partner also need to use VOIP for me to be able to reach them, and vice versa? We hardly use landlines anymore anyway, but that would be a limiting factor.
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SenorRaul725 Feb 2019 10:41Alright, I will definitely skip the 3 telephone lines/outlets. Maybe this way I can save a few euros at least.
I will set up the TV via satellite dish. From there, a coaxial cable goes to the utility room, and then it’s distributed to 5 satellite outlets in 5 rooms. Once Deutsche Glasfaser is finished in our area, we will also have IPTV as an option. In the long term, by adding more hardware, we can convert SAT to IP.
For the internet, I will now apply for a standard Telekom connection to the utility room as part of my current Magenta contract. From there, at least 20 CAT7 cables in conduits to almost all rooms, ending in double outlets (CAT 6a? Or is CAT6 sufficient?).
Once fiber optic is available, I will simply change the router, and thanks to the CAT7 cables, I’ll be able to use the full booked speed (400k).
Thank you all very much, you have been a great help!
I will set up the TV via satellite dish. From there, a coaxial cable goes to the utility room, and then it’s distributed to 5 satellite outlets in 5 rooms. Once Deutsche Glasfaser is finished in our area, we will also have IPTV as an option. In the long term, by adding more hardware, we can convert SAT to IP.
For the internet, I will now apply for a standard Telekom connection to the utility room as part of my current Magenta contract. From there, at least 20 CAT7 cables in conduits to almost all rooms, ending in double outlets (CAT 6a? Or is CAT6 sufficient?).
Once fiber optic is available, I will simply change the router, and thanks to the CAT7 cables, I’ll be able to use the full booked speed (400k).
Thank you all very much, you have been a great help!
I would also use CAT6a outlets if I were building new. From a current perspective, this is the standard that will last the longest.
You should still be able to use your router even with fiber optic connection. You will probably receive a fiber modem, and the router will then simply connect to the fiber modem without its own modem function.
You should still be able to use your router even with fiber optic connection. You will probably receive a fiber modem, and the router will then simply connect to the fiber modem without its own modem function.
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