ᐅ Single-family house floor plan of approximately 150 square meters on a plot located behind other properties
Created on: 27 Feb 2023 08:24
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Hausbaurer
Hello housebuilding forum members,
I enjoy reading this forum and would like to share our planning for discussion. Our plot is designated as parcel number 173/6.
Development Plan / Restrictions
Plot size: 498 m² (driveway approx. 60 m² (645 sq ft))
Slope: No
Site coverage ratio: No development plan (§34 Building Code)
Floor area ratio: No development plan (§34 Building Code)
Building envelope, building line and boundary: 3 m (10 ft) from plot boundary according to Bavarian Building Regulations
Edge development: none
Number of parking spaces: 1
Number of floors: 1.5
Roof type: Gable roof with a pitch of 40-45°
Architectural style: Single-family house
Orientation: Ridge line East/West
Placement on the plot: Northwest
Maximum height / limits: approx. 9 m (30 ft) (§34 Building Code)
Immediate neighbors: North neighbor 1.5 floors with gable roof. South neighbor single floor with hip roof. West neighbor 1.5 floors with gable roof. Next-nearest neighbor south 1.5–2 floors with gable roof and knee wall >1.2 m (4 ft).
Owner’s requirements
Style, roof type, building type: Gable roof, knee wall 1.4 m (4.5 ft), single-family house
Basement, floors: Usable basement (concrete), ground floor, upper floor
Number of people, age: 4 (2 adults + 2 toddlers)
Room requirements on ground and upper floors: Ground floor (kitchen, living room, shower bath, wardrobe, office), upper floor (2 bedrooms, 2 children’s rooms, bathroom)
Office: Home office
Guest bedrooms per year: 0
Open or closed architecture: Tending rather closed
Conservative or modern construction: Modern
Open kitchen, kitchen island: Yes, no kitchen island
Number of dining seats: 6–8
Fireplace: No
Music/sound wall: No
Balcony, roof terrace: No
Garage, carport: Garage or carport
Utility garden, greenhouse: No
Additional wishes / special features / daily routine, also with reasons why some features are wanted or not:
House design
Planner:
- Do-it-Yourself
What do you particularly like? Why?: Shower niches in the bathrooms, large children’s rooms facing west, L-shaped living-dining area instead of a narrow layout
What do you dislike? Why?: Upper floor bathroom, office located in the southeast instead of northwest
Cost estimate according to architect/planner: 580,000 EUR
Personal price limit for house including fittings:
Preferred heating technology: Air-to-water heat pump with underfloor heating.
If you had to give up, which details / extensions
- could you give up:
Office on ground floor (if replaced by usable basement space)
- could you not give up:
4 bedrooms
Why is the design as it is now?
Requirements and many attempts with our furniture. As much garden as possible on the south and east sides.
What is the most important / fundamental question about the floor plan in 130 characters?
How much clearance should be planned on the north side for the garage or carport? The passage should allow room for people and bicycles (bicycle shed planned behind the garage/carport). Is the overall design usable or have we overlooked something?
Best regards,
Hausbaurer
I enjoy reading this forum and would like to share our planning for discussion. Our plot is designated as parcel number 173/6.
Development Plan / Restrictions
Plot size: 498 m² (driveway approx. 60 m² (645 sq ft))
Slope: No
Site coverage ratio: No development plan (§34 Building Code)
Floor area ratio: No development plan (§34 Building Code)
Building envelope, building line and boundary: 3 m (10 ft) from plot boundary according to Bavarian Building Regulations
Edge development: none
Number of parking spaces: 1
Number of floors: 1.5
Roof type: Gable roof with a pitch of 40-45°
Architectural style: Single-family house
Orientation: Ridge line East/West
Placement on the plot: Northwest
Maximum height / limits: approx. 9 m (30 ft) (§34 Building Code)
Immediate neighbors: North neighbor 1.5 floors with gable roof. South neighbor single floor with hip roof. West neighbor 1.5 floors with gable roof. Next-nearest neighbor south 1.5–2 floors with gable roof and knee wall >1.2 m (4 ft).
Owner’s requirements
Style, roof type, building type: Gable roof, knee wall 1.4 m (4.5 ft), single-family house
Basement, floors: Usable basement (concrete), ground floor, upper floor
Number of people, age: 4 (2 adults + 2 toddlers)
Room requirements on ground and upper floors: Ground floor (kitchen, living room, shower bath, wardrobe, office), upper floor (2 bedrooms, 2 children’s rooms, bathroom)
Office: Home office
Guest bedrooms per year: 0
Open or closed architecture: Tending rather closed
Conservative or modern construction: Modern
Open kitchen, kitchen island: Yes, no kitchen island
Number of dining seats: 6–8
Fireplace: No
Music/sound wall: No
Balcony, roof terrace: No
Garage, carport: Garage or carport
Utility garden, greenhouse: No
Additional wishes / special features / daily routine, also with reasons why some features are wanted or not:
House design
Planner:
- Do-it-Yourself
What do you particularly like? Why?: Shower niches in the bathrooms, large children’s rooms facing west, L-shaped living-dining area instead of a narrow layout
What do you dislike? Why?: Upper floor bathroom, office located in the southeast instead of northwest
Cost estimate according to architect/planner: 580,000 EUR
Personal price limit for house including fittings:
Preferred heating technology: Air-to-water heat pump with underfloor heating.
If you had to give up, which details / extensions
- could you give up:
Office on ground floor (if replaced by usable basement space)
- could you not give up:
4 bedrooms
Why is the design as it is now?
Requirements and many attempts with our furniture. As much garden as possible on the south and east sides.
What is the most important / fundamental question about the floor plan in 130 characters?
How much clearance should be planned on the north side for the garage or carport? The passage should allow room for people and bicycles (bicycle shed planned behind the garage/carport). Is the overall design usable or have we overlooked something?
Best regards,
Hausbaurer
I couldn’t warm up to the east-facing orientation. The garden would be too fragmented for my taste. (But if that doesn’t matter, just rotate it.)
Attached is a sketch based on the original draft: south is at the bottom of the plan.
Do you have to build so many roads here? Yes! Otherwise, the carport on the west side would block too much light.
If you could warm up to the “I” shape of the open living area, the carport on the west side would be an option again.
Well, this is probably a complete disaster, because to quote the original poster:
Attached is a sketch based on the original draft: south is at the bottom of the plan.
Do you have to build so many roads here? Yes! Otherwise, the carport on the west side would block too much light.
If you could warm up to the “I” shape of the open living area, the carport on the west side would be an option again.
Well, this is probably a complete disaster, because to quote the original poster:
dieJulia schrieb:
...that’s exactly why I say you have no idea what you’re talking about.
Thank you for the inspiration.
I am about 95% sure that the city will allow me to pave half of the plot. Our city is very focused on preventing soil sealing. While other cities are debating whether to add more parking spaces, here they are even discussing the possibility of having zero parking spaces.
Unfortunately, there are no interior dimensions included, but I would estimate that with our furniture (corner sofa – yes, the plan shows two because the software crashes when I try to design just one corner sofa, dining benches instead of chairs, etc.) it won’t work. Also, in our plans, all interior doors are 1 meter (3 ft 3 in) wide, and the walls with a door would then be 1.2 meters (4 ft) wide. I don’t think that’s actually specified anywhere.
Oh, and I wouldn’t go so far as to call it a catastrophe. There are definitely aspects of your proposal that I would never build, and others that I would. And that’s the point. If I told you that the upstairs bathroom is simply too large, or that I would never stack a washing machine like that, etc., etc., you might tell me I need it that way.
What is clear, though, is that the upper room doesn’t really benefit from the bay window. It simply doesn’t affect the use of the room, even if it is half a meter (around 1.5 ft) larger. BUT the living room definitely needs it, especially if you place the sofa there, because then you can walk past it. Does anyone have an idea what extra costs this would cause for timber frame houses?
I am about 95% sure that the city will allow me to pave half of the plot. Our city is very focused on preventing soil sealing. While other cities are debating whether to add more parking spaces, here they are even discussing the possibility of having zero parking spaces.
Unfortunately, there are no interior dimensions included, but I would estimate that with our furniture (corner sofa – yes, the plan shows two because the software crashes when I try to design just one corner sofa, dining benches instead of chairs, etc.) it won’t work. Also, in our plans, all interior doors are 1 meter (3 ft 3 in) wide, and the walls with a door would then be 1.2 meters (4 ft) wide. I don’t think that’s actually specified anywhere.
Oh, and I wouldn’t go so far as to call it a catastrophe. There are definitely aspects of your proposal that I would never build, and others that I would. And that’s the point. If I told you that the upstairs bathroom is simply too large, or that I would never stack a washing machine like that, etc., etc., you might tell me I need it that way.
What is clear, though, is that the upper room doesn’t really benefit from the bay window. It simply doesn’t affect the use of the room, even if it is half a meter (around 1.5 ft) larger. BUT the living room definitely needs it, especially if you place the sofa there, because then you can walk past it. Does anyone have an idea what extra costs this would cause for timber frame houses?
dieJulia schrieb:
Does anyone have an idea of what kind of extra costs bay windows cause in wooden houses? There is no fixed extra charge for bay windows.
There is only a price for the house with a bay window and a different price for a house without one.
Different house, different roof, different structural engineering, different construction grid...
I would imagine a price difference between 10,000 and 40,000 euros.
I assume you mean “not” to seal it.
I quite liked the layout of the carport by @RomeoZwo:
https://www.hausbau-forum.de/threads/grundriss-efh-mit-ca-150-qm-auf-hinterliegergrundstueck.45070/post-621499
However, I would make it at least 4m (13 feet) wide to allow space for the front door and to keep the turning radius large enough. I would use the west side only as a parking space and turning area.
The issue with the washing machine in the bathroom was probably a misunderstanding. I thought your laundry basket tower was a washing machine tower. The space in the bathroom could simply be swapped out for the laundry baskets, and a laundry chute would also make sense.
For the second bedroom, you could mention whether there will be a central mechanical ventilation system. At this size, it is mainly about the air quality for sleeping at night. The key point is CO2 levels. But I believe everyone understands that you would prefer a smaller room.
I quite liked the layout of the carport by @RomeoZwo:
https://www.hausbau-forum.de/threads/grundriss-efh-mit-ca-150-qm-auf-hinterliegergrundstueck.45070/post-621499
However, I would make it at least 4m (13 feet) wide to allow space for the front door and to keep the turning radius large enough. I would use the west side only as a parking space and turning area.
The issue with the washing machine in the bathroom was probably a misunderstanding. I thought your laundry basket tower was a washing machine tower. The space in the bathroom could simply be swapped out for the laundry baskets, and a laundry chute would also make sense.
For the second bedroom, you could mention whether there will be a central mechanical ventilation system. At this size, it is mainly about the air quality for sleeping at night. The key point is CO2 levels. But I believe everyone understands that you would prefer a smaller room.
In this whole layout, the question still remains for me whether the neighbor’s garage will actually be built as planned. It was outlined in #38, and with 11m (36 feet) between the house and the property line, there is only about 5m (16 feet) left for maneuvering in and out. However, if the neighbor decides to build their garage differently, the “optimal” position of the carport will change, and with it, the position of the house as well. It’s not a simple situation. When is the neighbor planning to build their garage?
dieJulia schrieb:
Does anyone have an idea of the additional costs caused by bay windows in timber houses?Nida35a schrieb:
There is no fixed extra charge for bay windows.I can’t answer that with an exact amount, only in principle (and this has less to do with "wood" itself but more with "panelized construction"): 1. a bay window essentially turns a single-panel wall into a three-panel wall; 2. the implications for the roof structure are the more expensive part.https://www.instagram.com/11antgmxde/
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