ᐅ Floor plan design shortly before submitting the building permit application
Created on: 2 Oct 2017 23:25
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R.Hotzenplotz
Hello everyone!
As some users have requested before, I’m now starting a new thread with the current planning of our detached house, which is about to be finalized.
These are the preliminary drawings for the building permit / planning permission application, and I have one last chance to review them and point out any issues.
It still seems to me that there is less than 1.20m (4 feet) of space between the two wardrobes in the dressing room. Or am I seeing this wrong? Apparently, the rooms on the left and right were overlooked and not adjusted accordingly.
Two Velux ceiling spotlights are still planned to illuminate the upper floor hallway.
In the basement, on the right side in the upper room, a window similar to the one on the left basement side is an option.
We still haven’t decided on the T30 fire-rated door to the garage, even though it is shown in the plans. Most likely, for safety reasons and the limited use of the kitchen at the other end of the house, we will eventually forgo it.
User 11ant pointed out that the right window in child’s room 2 is suboptimally positioned. However, this could still be changed after submitting the building permit / planning permission application. Our architect thinks moving the window to the left would negatively affect the house’s exterior appearance. We’ll have to see about that.
As some users have requested before, I’m now starting a new thread with the current planning of our detached house, which is about to be finalized.
These are the preliminary drawings for the building permit / planning permission application, and I have one last chance to review them and point out any issues.
It still seems to me that there is less than 1.20m (4 feet) of space between the two wardrobes in the dressing room. Or am I seeing this wrong? Apparently, the rooms on the left and right were overlooked and not adjusted accordingly.
Two Velux ceiling spotlights are still planned to illuminate the upper floor hallway.
In the basement, on the right side in the upper room, a window similar to the one on the left basement side is an option.
We still haven’t decided on the T30 fire-rated door to the garage, even though it is shown in the plans. Most likely, for safety reasons and the limited use of the kitchen at the other end of the house, we will eventually forgo it.
User 11ant pointed out that the right window in child’s room 2 is suboptimally positioned. However, this could still be changed after submitting the building permit / planning permission application. Our architect thinks moving the window to the left would negatively affect the house’s exterior appearance. We’ll have to see about that.
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chand198616 Jun 2018 17:01Did you type that out yourself or copy and paste? For a profession that professionally documents investigation results, the latter would be a disaster. I mean: "vertal," really sir??
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R.Hotzenplotz16 Jun 2018 17:37chand1986 schrieb:
Did you type that out or copy & paste?Copy & paste, I’m not dyslexic. The report looks a bit better but still lacks proper punctuation, sentence structure, etc. My father-in-law’s drinking buddies manage better, don’t they 11ant?
I had another inspector in mind before. But I didn’t choose him because his sales pitch basically involved proudly showing photos and commenting on them... I had gone to court with the builder because of that... it was about contract advice... He basically scared you off building with anyone, since he already knew all the companies consulted from court cases. But he claimed that was normal and nothing to worry about. You just had to push through consistently. That seemed a bit extreme to me, and I got the impression he’s a nitpicker who deliberately looks for conflicts. I don’t need someone who makes a mountain out of a molehill but someone who points out serious mistakes on the construction site, is able to identify defects clearly, and can help reach an amicable solution with the main contractor.
This is just so frustrating!
Regarding the disagreement about the 200cm (79 inches) clear passage height at the patio door, I have now contacted the building authority and confronted them with the differing positions. After all, they approved the building permit/planning permission and should be able to say something about it. And if what the inspector claims turns out to be nonsense, I think I’ll just call it quits because my time and money are too valuable for this.
But now I’m also worried about how to really make a perfect choice when selecting an inspector who will take over (and who first has to familiarize themselves with the matter—for a high fee—GU contract, etc.).
What you want can be done by an expert without days of work and without involving the courts.
Our assessor also did this. Not properly sealed. After consulting with the manufacturer, the procedure is as follows. Product xy must be applied according to the instructions on the packaging.
However, statements like
"does not comply with the standard" were also made. A replacement as requested by the client is disproportionate. According to table xy, a reduction of is suggested.
Find an independent expert certified for court. They will not make demands that would not hold up in court and in return will not ask for less.
Our assessor also did this. Not properly sealed. After consulting with the manufacturer, the procedure is as follows. Product xy must be applied according to the instructions on the packaging.
However, statements like
"does not comply with the standard" were also made. A replacement as requested by the client is disproportionate. According to table xy, a reduction of is suggested.
Find an independent expert certified for court. They will not make demands that would not hold up in court and in return will not ask for less.
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R.Hotzenplotz16 Jun 2018 17:58haydee schrieb:
Our expert also did that. Not properly sealed. After consulting with the manufacturer, it will be done this way. Product xy must be applied according to the instructions on the packaging.Well, in our case, he writes that no instructions for action may be given under any circumstances. It is considered "vertal."
chand1986 schrieb:
I mean: "vertal", really sir?? That would probably mean "greenish."
R.Hotzenplotz schrieb:
With our inspection reports, we put our finger on the sore spots to prompt the other party to make corrections. The problem is, first, that the "other party"—which I would rather call the contractual partner here—does not even know where exactly to make corrections; and second, it is immediately clear that the expert’s knowledge for constructive suggestions is apparently insufficient.
More "verbal" than the spelling mistake, I find that the expert refers to DIN 18101—I quote from its "blurb": "This standard does not apply to - exterior doors according to DIN EN 14351-1, - fire and smoke protection doors according to DIN EN 16034, - burglary-resistant doors according to DIN EN 1627, - smoke protection doors according to DIN 18095-1 with general building authority test certificate (abP), - fire protection doors with general building authority approval (abZ)."—and also misunderstands its significance for the fire department:
DIN 18101 is a standard intended to allow sourcing door frames and door leaves for interior doors from different manufacturers. The "second escape route" concerns ensuring that a firefighter in protective gear and with breathing apparatus can pass through. The required clear dimension is 90 x 120 cm (35 x 47 inches). He apparently confuses this here with an access door large enough to allow a full team to march through.
In this case, I would feel more confident to be taken seriously with Hein Blöd at my side than with such an expert.
R.Hotzenplotz schrieb:
because he already knew all the consulted companies from court. But he said that is normal and not a reason to worry. You should have hired him, because he is right. Nowadays, calculations are made so that you save a bit more when cutting corners than you have to pay to fix things when caught. It’s taken as a sort of sport, and afterwards, the expert can safely encounter you in the dark.
haydee schrieb:
After consulting with the manufacturer, this is done such and such. Product xy must be applied following the instructions on the packaging. That’s the right approach and sufficient. The general contractor can work with that. After all, the goal is to resolve problems out of court if possible; and if it goes to court, then to argue about the issue itself and not the expert’s competence.
R.Hotzenplotz schrieb:
then I think I will end it because my time and money are too valuable for this. Yes, please request the final invoice and pay it without any deductions— in my opinion, you couldn’t reduce it by more than the cost of legal advice about reducing the payment.
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