ᐅ Preliminary floor plan design for a 220 m² single-family house
Created on: 20 Jun 2017 22:41
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R.Hotzenplotz
Hello!
We have already gone through several plans with our architect and I think we are almost there, about to start the detailed planning phase. Before that, I’m looking forward to getting feedback from other users.
Development plan/restrictions: §34 – two full stories
Plot size: 1,085m² (1,1679 yd²)
Basement, floors – 2 full stories plus partial basement
Number of people, ages – 3 people (37, 34, 1, second child planned)
Space requirements on ground floor and upper floor – the requirement was that bedrooms and the study should be about 17m² (183 ft²) each; the entire house should be approximately 220m² (2,368 ft²)
Office: family use
Guests per year: 1
Open or closed architecture: closed
Traditional or modern design: modern
Open kitchen, kitchen island – no open kitchen, but yes to a kitchen island
Number of dining seats – 6
Fireplace – yes
Music/stereo wall – TV wall
Balcony, roof terrace – balcony
Garage, carport – large garage
Additional wishes/special features/daily routines, preferably with reasons why certain things should or should not be included – everyone should be able to sleep as undisturbed as possible in their bedrooms, even if other family members are awake. The husband is sometimes up as early as 4 a.m. Otherwise, watching TV in the evening should be possible without disturbing those sleeping upstairs.
House design
Who created the design:
- Architect (freelancer for a general contractor)
What do you like most? Why?
The upper floor with well-sized rooms and the location of the rooms exactly where they should be (only the washroom area we would still like to move to the outer right corner so that you don’t have to pass it every time you use the toilet). On the ground floor, the access through an airlock, the kitchen, and the dining area with the study next to it are especially liked.
Also appreciated is that after adjustments, the study now faces the garden instead of the street.
What don’t you like? Why?
We originally wanted the distance from wall to wall where the sofa and TV stand is to be about 6.40m (21 ft) (large screen & surround system), but so far only 5.69m (19 ft) has been realized.
Laundry room as described.
Kitchen larger in square meters than needed; the approx. 3m² (32 ft²) could theoretically be used well in the living area.
Price estimate according to architect/planner:
720,000 euros (including construction incidentals)
Personal price limit for the house, including equipment:
800,000 euros
Preferred heating technology:
Gas
If you have to give up on something, which details/features can you do without?
- Can do without:
Technical systems like controlled residential ventilation
- Cannot do without:
Space (except for the kitchen)
Why is the design the way it is now? For example:
Is this a standard design from the planner?
The architect has largely implemented our wishes; the only issue is the living room situation.
What makes it particularly good or bad in your opinion?
Patient, quick to implement, has already gotten to know us well.
No negative points.
Do you notice any other points that might not fit or that we should consider, which we might have overlooked?
In the basement, the room currently labeled as home cinema might possibly be used as one medium- to long-term. For the foreseeable future, it will be a storage room.
We have already gone through several plans with our architect and I think we are almost there, about to start the detailed planning phase. Before that, I’m looking forward to getting feedback from other users.
Development plan/restrictions: §34 – two full stories
Plot size: 1,085m² (1,1679 yd²)
Basement, floors – 2 full stories plus partial basement
Number of people, ages – 3 people (37, 34, 1, second child planned)
Space requirements on ground floor and upper floor – the requirement was that bedrooms and the study should be about 17m² (183 ft²) each; the entire house should be approximately 220m² (2,368 ft²)
Office: family use
Guests per year: 1
Open or closed architecture: closed
Traditional or modern design: modern
Open kitchen, kitchen island – no open kitchen, but yes to a kitchen island
Number of dining seats – 6
Fireplace – yes
Music/stereo wall – TV wall
Balcony, roof terrace – balcony
Garage, carport – large garage
Additional wishes/special features/daily routines, preferably with reasons why certain things should or should not be included – everyone should be able to sleep as undisturbed as possible in their bedrooms, even if other family members are awake. The husband is sometimes up as early as 4 a.m. Otherwise, watching TV in the evening should be possible without disturbing those sleeping upstairs.
House design
Who created the design:
- Architect (freelancer for a general contractor)
What do you like most? Why?
The upper floor with well-sized rooms and the location of the rooms exactly where they should be (only the washroom area we would still like to move to the outer right corner so that you don’t have to pass it every time you use the toilet). On the ground floor, the access through an airlock, the kitchen, and the dining area with the study next to it are especially liked.
Also appreciated is that after adjustments, the study now faces the garden instead of the street.
What don’t you like? Why?
We originally wanted the distance from wall to wall where the sofa and TV stand is to be about 6.40m (21 ft) (large screen & surround system), but so far only 5.69m (19 ft) has been realized.
Laundry room as described.
Kitchen larger in square meters than needed; the approx. 3m² (32 ft²) could theoretically be used well in the living area.
Price estimate according to architect/planner:
720,000 euros (including construction incidentals)
Personal price limit for the house, including equipment:
800,000 euros
Preferred heating technology:
Gas
If you have to give up on something, which details/features can you do without?
- Can do without:
Technical systems like controlled residential ventilation
- Cannot do without:
Space (except for the kitchen)
Why is the design the way it is now? For example:
Is this a standard design from the planner?
The architect has largely implemented our wishes; the only issue is the living room situation.
What makes it particularly good or bad in your opinion?
Patient, quick to implement, has already gotten to know us well.
No negative points.
Do you notice any other points that might not fit or that we should consider, which we might have overlooked?
In the basement, the room currently labeled as home cinema might possibly be used as one medium- to long-term. For the foreseeable future, it will be a storage room.
Didn’t you originally plan to have a smaller kitchen?
This time I specifically looked for the chimney shaft and at least found it on the upper floor. But not in the basement. No idea if it’s not needed there or if I’m just missing it again. Are you sure about the type of chimney? The pipe inside the room really limits your design options, and if it’s more of a nice-to-have feature if there’s leftover budget, you should definitely check how the opening can be sealed during the transition period.
Otherwise, are you ready to move on to the details now?
I like the idea of keeping the kitchen wall completely straight. It makes the passage near the stairs feel more open. The corner near the office wouldn’t bother me that much, but if you feel like you’re always walking into a corner, I would definitely change it.
Some friends of mine interrupted the wall opposite their straight staircase and created an opening so you don’t always walk directly into a wall when coming down. Perhaps that’s an option for you, maybe with a side panel for even more openness? Of course, this would involve some changes to the kitchen, but you weren’t planning to keep it as is anyway.
I might consider moving the office door slightly further down to avoid walking all the way through the dining area (although I understand the reasoning behind not placing the door right behind a seating spot).
Is there going to be a third shower on the ground floor? What would it be used for? Maybe the guest toilet could be made slightly smaller to enlarge the cloakroom? The proportion between the cloakroom and hallway doesn’t seem right to me. Will you close off the basement stairs completely so there’s at least some space in front of them for storage?
I assume you have now completely removed the pantry as the “main entrance,” right?
For Child 2’s room, you should double-check the furniture layout; a bed directly under a window is, in my opinion, not ideal.
Has the drainage system for the bathrooms above the living area been discussed before? How does it work?
I would also consider adding a door between the bedroom and the dressing room. Place the door centrally between the wardrobes, if you’re already sure that equally deep wardrobes will be installed on both sides.
This time I specifically looked for the chimney shaft and at least found it on the upper floor. But not in the basement. No idea if it’s not needed there or if I’m just missing it again. Are you sure about the type of chimney? The pipe inside the room really limits your design options, and if it’s more of a nice-to-have feature if there’s leftover budget, you should definitely check how the opening can be sealed during the transition period.
Otherwise, are you ready to move on to the details now?
I like the idea of keeping the kitchen wall completely straight. It makes the passage near the stairs feel more open. The corner near the office wouldn’t bother me that much, but if you feel like you’re always walking into a corner, I would definitely change it.
Some friends of mine interrupted the wall opposite their straight staircase and created an opening so you don’t always walk directly into a wall when coming down. Perhaps that’s an option for you, maybe with a side panel for even more openness? Of course, this would involve some changes to the kitchen, but you weren’t planning to keep it as is anyway.
I might consider moving the office door slightly further down to avoid walking all the way through the dining area (although I understand the reasoning behind not placing the door right behind a seating spot).
Is there going to be a third shower on the ground floor? What would it be used for? Maybe the guest toilet could be made slightly smaller to enlarge the cloakroom? The proportion between the cloakroom and hallway doesn’t seem right to me. Will you close off the basement stairs completely so there’s at least some space in front of them for storage?
I assume you have now completely removed the pantry as the “main entrance,” right?
For Child 2’s room, you should double-check the furniture layout; a bed directly under a window is, in my opinion, not ideal.
Has the drainage system for the bathrooms above the living area been discussed before? How does it work?
I would also consider adding a door between the bedroom and the dressing room. Place the door centrally between the wardrobes, if you’re already sure that equally deep wardrobes will be installed on both sides.
Baufie schrieb:
2. How is the drainage for the master bathroom supposed to work? Oh, don’t confuse me here with facts.
The drainage of the master bathroom is located in the corner of the upper floor that doesn’t even exist on the ground floor. The downpipe would come down right in front of the sofa. Well, a design-focused architect can sometimes overlook that.
But the fact that you caught a detail-oriented person like me overlooking it too: chapeau!
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R.Hotzenplotz27 Jun 2017 16:52I have an appointment with the architect shortly and will bring up the topic of drainage.
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R.Hotzenplotz27 Jun 2017 21:39The drainage is supposed to run first through the ceiling and then be directed downwards at another point, for example, at the chimney pipe. The architect says this is part of the detailed planning and that I shouldn’t worry about it.
There is basically only one issue left. The offset near the sofa upstairs. There are still two options open, and we want to decide by tomorrow. My wife prefers the one where the niche is behind the sofa, while I actually prefer the continuous wall. I’ve also attached some exterior visualizations for this. I don’t find the niche on the outside very attractive. The architect prefers the niche solution from the outside and the straight wall solution from the inside... difficult decision...
He is incorporating all other changes.
We also discussed a basement level.
There is basically only one issue left. The offset near the sofa upstairs. There are still two options open, and we want to decide by tomorrow. My wife prefers the one where the niche is behind the sofa, while I actually prefer the continuous wall. I’ve also attached some exterior visualizations for this. I don’t find the niche on the outside very attractive. The architect prefers the niche solution from the outside and the straight wall solution from the inside... difficult decision...
He is incorporating all other changes.
We also discussed a basement level.
R.Hotzenplotz schrieb:
The drainage is supposed to run through the ceiling first and then be routed downward at another point, for example near the chimney flue. The architect says this is part of the detailed design phase and that I shouldn’t worry about it. A home theater with a toilet flush is a sign of poor planning, and you should give him a serious talking-to.
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