ᐅ Preliminary floor plan design for a 220 m² single-family house
Created on: 20 Jun 2017 22:41
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R.Hotzenplotz
Hello!
We have already gone through several plans with our architect and I think we are almost there, about to start the detailed planning phase. Before that, I’m looking forward to getting feedback from other users.
Development plan/restrictions: §34 – two full stories
Plot size: 1,085m² (1,1679 yd²)
Basement, floors – 2 full stories plus partial basement
Number of people, ages – 3 people (37, 34, 1, second child planned)
Space requirements on ground floor and upper floor – the requirement was that bedrooms and the study should be about 17m² (183 ft²) each; the entire house should be approximately 220m² (2,368 ft²)
Office: family use
Guests per year: 1
Open or closed architecture: closed
Traditional or modern design: modern
Open kitchen, kitchen island – no open kitchen, but yes to a kitchen island
Number of dining seats – 6
Fireplace – yes
Music/stereo wall – TV wall
Balcony, roof terrace – balcony
Garage, carport – large garage
Additional wishes/special features/daily routines, preferably with reasons why certain things should or should not be included – everyone should be able to sleep as undisturbed as possible in their bedrooms, even if other family members are awake. The husband is sometimes up as early as 4 a.m. Otherwise, watching TV in the evening should be possible without disturbing those sleeping upstairs.
House design
Who created the design:
- Architect (freelancer for a general contractor)
What do you like most? Why?
The upper floor with well-sized rooms and the location of the rooms exactly where they should be (only the washroom area we would still like to move to the outer right corner so that you don’t have to pass it every time you use the toilet). On the ground floor, the access through an airlock, the kitchen, and the dining area with the study next to it are especially liked.
Also appreciated is that after adjustments, the study now faces the garden instead of the street.
What don’t you like? Why?
We originally wanted the distance from wall to wall where the sofa and TV stand is to be about 6.40m (21 ft) (large screen & surround system), but so far only 5.69m (19 ft) has been realized.
Laundry room as described.
Kitchen larger in square meters than needed; the approx. 3m² (32 ft²) could theoretically be used well in the living area.
Price estimate according to architect/planner:
720,000 euros (including construction incidentals)
Personal price limit for the house, including equipment:
800,000 euros
Preferred heating technology:
Gas
If you have to give up on something, which details/features can you do without?
- Can do without:
Technical systems like controlled residential ventilation
- Cannot do without:
Space (except for the kitchen)
Why is the design the way it is now? For example:
Is this a standard design from the planner?
The architect has largely implemented our wishes; the only issue is the living room situation.
What makes it particularly good or bad in your opinion?
Patient, quick to implement, has already gotten to know us well.
No negative points.
Do you notice any other points that might not fit or that we should consider, which we might have overlooked?
In the basement, the room currently labeled as home cinema might possibly be used as one medium- to long-term. For the foreseeable future, it will be a storage room.
We have already gone through several plans with our architect and I think we are almost there, about to start the detailed planning phase. Before that, I’m looking forward to getting feedback from other users.
Development plan/restrictions: §34 – two full stories
Plot size: 1,085m² (1,1679 yd²)
Basement, floors – 2 full stories plus partial basement
Number of people, ages – 3 people (37, 34, 1, second child planned)
Space requirements on ground floor and upper floor – the requirement was that bedrooms and the study should be about 17m² (183 ft²) each; the entire house should be approximately 220m² (2,368 ft²)
Office: family use
Guests per year: 1
Open or closed architecture: closed
Traditional or modern design: modern
Open kitchen, kitchen island – no open kitchen, but yes to a kitchen island
Number of dining seats – 6
Fireplace – yes
Music/stereo wall – TV wall
Balcony, roof terrace – balcony
Garage, carport – large garage
Additional wishes/special features/daily routines, preferably with reasons why certain things should or should not be included – everyone should be able to sleep as undisturbed as possible in their bedrooms, even if other family members are awake. The husband is sometimes up as early as 4 a.m. Otherwise, watching TV in the evening should be possible without disturbing those sleeping upstairs.
House design
Who created the design:
- Architect (freelancer for a general contractor)
What do you like most? Why?
The upper floor with well-sized rooms and the location of the rooms exactly where they should be (only the washroom area we would still like to move to the outer right corner so that you don’t have to pass it every time you use the toilet). On the ground floor, the access through an airlock, the kitchen, and the dining area with the study next to it are especially liked.
Also appreciated is that after adjustments, the study now faces the garden instead of the street.
What don’t you like? Why?
We originally wanted the distance from wall to wall where the sofa and TV stand is to be about 6.40m (21 ft) (large screen & surround system), but so far only 5.69m (19 ft) has been realized.
Laundry room as described.
Kitchen larger in square meters than needed; the approx. 3m² (32 ft²) could theoretically be used well in the living area.
Price estimate according to architect/planner:
720,000 euros (including construction incidentals)
Personal price limit for the house, including equipment:
800,000 euros
Preferred heating technology:
Gas
If you have to give up on something, which details/features can you do without?
- Can do without:
Technical systems like controlled residential ventilation
- Cannot do without:
Space (except for the kitchen)
Why is the design the way it is now? For example:
Is this a standard design from the planner?
The architect has largely implemented our wishes; the only issue is the living room situation.
What makes it particularly good or bad in your opinion?
Patient, quick to implement, has already gotten to know us well.
No negative points.
Do you notice any other points that might not fit or that we should consider, which we might have overlooked?
In the basement, the room currently labeled as home cinema might possibly be used as one medium- to long-term. For the foreseeable future, it will be a storage room.
R.Hotzenplotz schrieb:
So overall, you don’t see an adequate solution for the problem; is that correct? Relatively (meaning in the context of the current discussion) you are correct.
In absolute terms, it’s different: there is actually no problem. The staircase not working only applies to design 265, which was just a sketch anyway (even though colorful and by the architect) and still needs to be revised. This error will simply be corrected and that’s it.
The beams in that design looked dreadful visually, as I already showed more elegantly in #248. In this respect, the “current” bearing position does not limit the staircase situation as severely as it is being discussed now. These are still drawings, so everything is still fixable.
For your hip roof, many things literally still need to be reconsidered anyway.
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11ant schrieb:
It would still have to exit flush with this wall, meaning it would need to start "later" at the bottom; otherwise, the headroom won’t work out. However, this exit (which from the perspective of the upper staircase line would be on the side) would likely be architecturally unacceptable to the homeowner, and in my opinion also architecturally unusual here. That was the option the OP described as "this is definitely not a dealbreaker."
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R.Hotzenplotz21 Aug 2017 16:56kaho674 schrieb:
That was the option the original poster described as "definitely not a deal breaker."It’s really annoying that I can’t edit the original post anymore to upload the latest design...
I just went for a walk to take another look at hipped roofs with different angles. It turns out we don’t actually have to go for the very shallow angle like on the pink house. But I’m not really sold on the classic hipped roof either... I’d probably even prefer a flat roof, but since we got the new designs, my wife is completely against that. I actually like a shed roof as well. I just saw some nice examples...
R.Hotzenplotz schrieb:
But I’m not really fond of the classic hip roof either What would an unconventional hip roof look like? A half-hip roof doesn’t work either (nor a pseudo-Bauhaus style), and it usually can’t have a pitch much less than 40° (degrees). A pyramid roof requires a more square floor plan.
R.Hotzenplotz schrieb:
I actually find a shed roof quite cool. I’ve seen some nice designs recently... ... and you didn’t have a camera with you?
I also like a true shed roof (not a gable roof with an extended slope). That could be done with an exposed underside of the roof.
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R.Hotzenplotz21 Aug 2017 18:3511ant schrieb:
What would an unconventional hip roof be? -Something like the pink house with a shallow angle. Of course, it’s still a "classic hip roof," but just not with the traditional pitch.
11ant schrieb:
... and no camera with you?Unfortunately not, just my little daughter in the stroller... but I’ll quickly take two photos now...
... although that doesn’t really help us, since my wife isn’t cooperating...
R.Hotzenplotz schrieb:
Something like the pink house with obtuse angles. Of course, it's still a "classic hip roof," but just not with the traditional pitch.What do you mean by "obtuse angle" – the one at the roof ridge?
The pink house doesn’t really have a classic hip roof; it’s more of a pyramid roof. The same goes for the yellow house, where the ridge is very short. A classic hip roof is like the one on Nordlys.
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