Hello! I’m new here, although I’ve read the forum quite a bit and gathered some tips. 🙂
I’m starting to plan a kitchen for our apartment, but I already have some questions that maybe—hopefully—you can help me with.
1) If I have an under-cabinet range hood installed inside the upper cabinet above the stove, won’t the cabinet body and especially the doors get dirty over time? From what I understand, they are unprotected above the stove, and the upper cabinet is only 40cm (16 inches) deep, so it sits directly over the cooktop.
2) If I have a tall cabinet (60cm / 24 inches) next to an upper cabinet (depth 40cm / 16 inches), do I need to install a spacer strip between them so that the upper cabinet doors can open properly? Or can I leave it as is, even if the doors won’t open more than 90°? (Would this also require different hinges?)
3) When the countertop ends at a tall cabinet, it usually overhangs a bit at the front... is that normal, or should the tall cabinet be set back so it’s flush with the countertop rather than with the base cabinets? Or is this just a matter of personal preference? 😳
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4) We have a freestanding dishwasher that probably can’t be integrated with a front panel. That’s not a big deal, BUT: we also can’t place it between two cabinets, so my idea is to simply attach a cover panel on the outside and fix it to the wall and countertop with brackets. Or would I need something sturdier for that? (The countertop is supposed to rest on the dishwasher, with the gap between the dishwasher top and countertop filled with wooden blocks and optionally covered at the front.)
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That’s it for now. Tomorrow I want to visit IKEA to look at fronts, countertops, etc., before I probably come up with a thousand more questions. But the kitchen probably won’t be realized before 2017 anyway.
I’m starting to plan a kitchen for our apartment, but I already have some questions that maybe—hopefully—you can help me with.
1) If I have an under-cabinet range hood installed inside the upper cabinet above the stove, won’t the cabinet body and especially the doors get dirty over time? From what I understand, they are unprotected above the stove, and the upper cabinet is only 40cm (16 inches) deep, so it sits directly over the cooktop.
2) If I have a tall cabinet (60cm / 24 inches) next to an upper cabinet (depth 40cm / 16 inches), do I need to install a spacer strip between them so that the upper cabinet doors can open properly? Or can I leave it as is, even if the doors won’t open more than 90°? (Would this also require different hinges?)
3) When the countertop ends at a tall cabinet, it usually overhangs a bit at the front... is that normal, or should the tall cabinet be set back so it’s flush with the countertop rather than with the base cabinets? Or is this just a matter of personal preference? 😳
Picture related to 2 and 3:
4) We have a freestanding dishwasher that probably can’t be integrated with a front panel. That’s not a big deal, BUT: we also can’t place it between two cabinets, so my idea is to simply attach a cover panel on the outside and fix it to the wall and countertop with brackets. Or would I need something sturdier for that? (The countertop is supposed to rest on the dishwasher, with the gap between the dishwasher top and countertop filled with wooden blocks and optionally covered at the front.)
Picture related to 4:
That’s it for now. Tomorrow I want to visit IKEA to look at fronts, countertops, etc., before I probably come up with a thousand more questions. But the kitchen probably won’t be realized before 2017 anyway.
@juliette: I missed the photo offer earlier, thanks for that. I looked at it yesterday at IKEA and actually don’t find the overhanging countertop disturbing. However, I realized all the refrigerators are huge and I can’t plan with them because we would never be able to reach the top.
@Tux: I checked out Underverk and yeah, it really doesn’t look that great. I’ve now found one from AEG that’s roughly what you described, plus a retractable hood. Hopefully, it will still be available when the time comes. (A hood costing $500–1500 wouldn’t match our cooking habits anyway…)
Oh, and I’ve also noticed: those profiled fronts (Sävedal, Bodbyn…) are quite nice, but I think the constant cleaning wouldn’t be enjoyable for me. I find Veddinge quite stylish, but unfortunately, it doesn’t have glass-front cabinets (though SÄVEDAL might fit there). According to an IKEA employee, new items may be added from August, and we can’t buy anything before then anyway. We’ll see.
I’m still planning ahead! Looking forward to the kitchen planning workshops our IKEA will offer in a few weeks.
Thanks for your quick help so far!
@Tux: I checked out Underverk and yeah, it really doesn’t look that great. I’ve now found one from AEG that’s roughly what you described, plus a retractable hood. Hopefully, it will still be available when the time comes. (A hood costing $500–1500 wouldn’t match our cooking habits anyway…)
Oh, and I’ve also noticed: those profiled fronts (Sävedal, Bodbyn…) are quite nice, but I think the constant cleaning wouldn’t be enjoyable for me. I find Veddinge quite stylish, but unfortunately, it doesn’t have glass-front cabinets (though SÄVEDAL might fit there). According to an IKEA employee, new items may be added from August, and we can’t buy anything before then anyway. We’ll see.
I’m still planning ahead! Looking forward to the kitchen planning workshops our IKEA will offer in a few weeks.
Thanks for your quick help so far!
If these could also be installed "up top" in a 60cm (24 inches) cabinet, they would still be within the budget considerations. (I found the installation manual for the AEG online, which I thought was helpful.)
According to our current plan, showcase doors would only affect an 80x60cm (31x24 inches) cabinet, more as a design element. But we might also decide to leave it without doors, we’ll see.
One more question, and I’m not sure if it deserves its own thread: we would like this corner cabinet, but would need to shorten it (and cut the shelves instead of using a carousel) because one side is only 40cm (16 inches) deep instead of 60cm (24 inches). With some basic DIY skills, this should be doable, right? I’m happy to share my detailed thoughts on this. 😀 Our biggest concern is whether the double door hinge can handle a door that is 20cm (8 inches) longer and thus heavier.
According to our current plan, showcase doors would only affect an 80x60cm (31x24 inches) cabinet, more as a design element. But we might also decide to leave it without doors, we’ll see.
One more question, and I’m not sure if it deserves its own thread: we would like this corner cabinet, but would need to shorten it (and cut the shelves instead of using a carousel) because one side is only 40cm (16 inches) deep instead of 60cm (24 inches). With some basic DIY skills, this should be doable, right? I’m happy to share my detailed thoughts on this. 😀 Our biggest concern is whether the double door hinge can handle a door that is 20cm (8 inches) longer and thus heavier.
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IKEA-Experte11 Mar 2016 17:02The installation instructions are also available from Neff, integrated into the user manual. First, the installation for a 60 cm (24 inch) wide appliance is shown, followed by an addition for a 90 cm (36 inch) model.
The corner cabinet can certainly be shortened, but then the carousel will no longer fit inside. I don’t understand why the door should become longer with a shortened cabinet. In my view, a shortened corner cabinet doesn’t really make sense. Alternatives can be considered within an overall planning.
The corner cabinet can certainly be shortened, but then the carousel will no longer fit inside. I don’t understand why the door should become longer with a shortened cabinet. In my view, a shortened corner cabinet doesn’t really make sense. Alternatives can be considered within an overall planning.
Cool, thanks!!
A longer door would have been possible only by shortening one side (top). Meanwhile, we are considering shortening it completely (bottom), but of course we are also thinking about alternatives. We find carousel units rather space-consuming (unused corners).
With the other corner cabinet, the problem would be that the back area is hard to access... we would have to shorten it to 1 meter (3.3 feet), with a 40cm (16 inch) door, so it visually matches the wall cabinets (and here the carousel only fills half of the cabinet anyway – impractical).
But we are still thinking about this whole corner.
A longer door would have been possible only by shortening one side (top). Meanwhile, we are considering shortening it completely (bottom), but of course we are also thinking about alternatives. We find carousel units rather space-consuming (unused corners).
With the other corner cabinet, the problem would be that the back area is hard to access... we would have to shorten it to 1 meter (3.3 feet), with a 40cm (16 inch) door, so it visually matches the wall cabinets (and here the carousel only fills half of the cabinet anyway – impractical).
But we are still thinking about this whole corner.
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IKEA-Experte12 Mar 2016 11:16Do you currently have the kitchen set up with the base cabinets and chairs just like in the pictures? I would go crazy in the kitchen that way.
Because we have to crawl underneath?
At the moment, we only have mismatched kitchen furniture from my old apartment, arranged like this from above:
We want to get rid of most of the open shelves simply because everything gets dusty and greasy, and they are already mounted too high. Pots and similar items should go into the corner cabinet instead.
There is already a shelf under the table because we really have nowhere else to store things properly. Currently, some food is stored in the hallway, which we want to avoid — hence the idea of having larger cabinets under the table. I would prefer less deep cabinets, but they should also support the countertop, which would otherwise be free-spanning at 1.20 meters (4 feet) and might sag over time. The chairs would be hung on the wall when not in use (instead of constantly being in the way as at present). Although we can also eat in the living room, that is always a bit inconvenient. Still, we are considering it as an alternative because placing the table in the kitchen would only be possible by the window.
Elsewhere, I don’t see any additional storage options where we (about 160cm (5 ft 3 in) tall) wouldn’t have to climb, like with the planned wall cabinets at the top for rarely used items. No cabinets can be hung above the sink because the wall is thin and full of cables, and there would be steaming appliances like a kettle and coffee machine on the dishwasher. The chairs would hang on the wall where the stove currently is. Below that would be the cat food corner.
But we’re happy to receive any tips!
PS: This is a rental apartment, and we are not allowed to change (or have changed) any plumbing or electrical connections. We have only three regular power outlets in the kitchen, all located between the radiator and the window.
At the moment, we only have mismatched kitchen furniture from my old apartment, arranged like this from above:
We want to get rid of most of the open shelves simply because everything gets dusty and greasy, and they are already mounted too high. Pots and similar items should go into the corner cabinet instead.
There is already a shelf under the table because we really have nowhere else to store things properly. Currently, some food is stored in the hallway, which we want to avoid — hence the idea of having larger cabinets under the table. I would prefer less deep cabinets, but they should also support the countertop, which would otherwise be free-spanning at 1.20 meters (4 feet) and might sag over time. The chairs would be hung on the wall when not in use (instead of constantly being in the way as at present). Although we can also eat in the living room, that is always a bit inconvenient. Still, we are considering it as an alternative because placing the table in the kitchen would only be possible by the window.
Elsewhere, I don’t see any additional storage options where we (about 160cm (5 ft 3 in) tall) wouldn’t have to climb, like with the planned wall cabinets at the top for rarely used items. No cabinets can be hung above the sink because the wall is thin and full of cables, and there would be steaming appliances like a kettle and coffee machine on the dishwasher. The chairs would hang on the wall where the stove currently is. Below that would be the cat food corner.
But we’re happy to receive any tips!
PS: This is a rental apartment, and we are not allowed to change (or have changed) any plumbing or electrical connections. We have only three regular power outlets in the kitchen, all located between the radiator and the window.
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