ᐅ Preliminary floor plan design for a 220 m² single-family house
Created on: 20 Jun 2017 22:41
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R.Hotzenplotz
Hello!
We have already gone through several plans with our architect and I think we are almost there, about to start the detailed planning phase. Before that, I’m looking forward to getting feedback from other users.
Development plan/restrictions: §34 – two full stories
Plot size: 1,085m² (1,1679 yd²)
Basement, floors – 2 full stories plus partial basement
Number of people, ages – 3 people (37, 34, 1, second child planned)
Space requirements on ground floor and upper floor – the requirement was that bedrooms and the study should be about 17m² (183 ft²) each; the entire house should be approximately 220m² (2,368 ft²)
Office: family use
Guests per year: 1
Open or closed architecture: closed
Traditional or modern design: modern
Open kitchen, kitchen island – no open kitchen, but yes to a kitchen island
Number of dining seats – 6
Fireplace – yes
Music/stereo wall – TV wall
Balcony, roof terrace – balcony
Garage, carport – large garage
Additional wishes/special features/daily routines, preferably with reasons why certain things should or should not be included – everyone should be able to sleep as undisturbed as possible in their bedrooms, even if other family members are awake. The husband is sometimes up as early as 4 a.m. Otherwise, watching TV in the evening should be possible without disturbing those sleeping upstairs.
House design
Who created the design:
- Architect (freelancer for a general contractor)
What do you like most? Why?
The upper floor with well-sized rooms and the location of the rooms exactly where they should be (only the washroom area we would still like to move to the outer right corner so that you don’t have to pass it every time you use the toilet). On the ground floor, the access through an airlock, the kitchen, and the dining area with the study next to it are especially liked.
Also appreciated is that after adjustments, the study now faces the garden instead of the street.
What don’t you like? Why?
We originally wanted the distance from wall to wall where the sofa and TV stand is to be about 6.40m (21 ft) (large screen & surround system), but so far only 5.69m (19 ft) has been realized.
Laundry room as described.
Kitchen larger in square meters than needed; the approx. 3m² (32 ft²) could theoretically be used well in the living area.
Price estimate according to architect/planner:
720,000 euros (including construction incidentals)
Personal price limit for the house, including equipment:
800,000 euros
Preferred heating technology:
Gas
If you have to give up on something, which details/features can you do without?
- Can do without:
Technical systems like controlled residential ventilation
- Cannot do without:
Space (except for the kitchen)
Why is the design the way it is now? For example:
Is this a standard design from the planner?
The architect has largely implemented our wishes; the only issue is the living room situation.
What makes it particularly good or bad in your opinion?
Patient, quick to implement, has already gotten to know us well.
No negative points.
Do you notice any other points that might not fit or that we should consider, which we might have overlooked?
In the basement, the room currently labeled as home cinema might possibly be used as one medium- to long-term. For the foreseeable future, it will be a storage room.
We have already gone through several plans with our architect and I think we are almost there, about to start the detailed planning phase. Before that, I’m looking forward to getting feedback from other users.
Development plan/restrictions: §34 – two full stories
Plot size: 1,085m² (1,1679 yd²)
Basement, floors – 2 full stories plus partial basement
Number of people, ages – 3 people (37, 34, 1, second child planned)
Space requirements on ground floor and upper floor – the requirement was that bedrooms and the study should be about 17m² (183 ft²) each; the entire house should be approximately 220m² (2,368 ft²)
Office: family use
Guests per year: 1
Open or closed architecture: closed
Traditional or modern design: modern
Open kitchen, kitchen island – no open kitchen, but yes to a kitchen island
Number of dining seats – 6
Fireplace – yes
Music/stereo wall – TV wall
Balcony, roof terrace – balcony
Garage, carport – large garage
Additional wishes/special features/daily routines, preferably with reasons why certain things should or should not be included – everyone should be able to sleep as undisturbed as possible in their bedrooms, even if other family members are awake. The husband is sometimes up as early as 4 a.m. Otherwise, watching TV in the evening should be possible without disturbing those sleeping upstairs.
House design
Who created the design:
- Architect (freelancer for a general contractor)
What do you like most? Why?
The upper floor with well-sized rooms and the location of the rooms exactly where they should be (only the washroom area we would still like to move to the outer right corner so that you don’t have to pass it every time you use the toilet). On the ground floor, the access through an airlock, the kitchen, and the dining area with the study next to it are especially liked.
Also appreciated is that after adjustments, the study now faces the garden instead of the street.
What don’t you like? Why?
We originally wanted the distance from wall to wall where the sofa and TV stand is to be about 6.40m (21 ft) (large screen & surround system), but so far only 5.69m (19 ft) has been realized.
Laundry room as described.
Kitchen larger in square meters than needed; the approx. 3m² (32 ft²) could theoretically be used well in the living area.
Price estimate according to architect/planner:
720,000 euros (including construction incidentals)
Personal price limit for the house, including equipment:
800,000 euros
Preferred heating technology:
Gas
If you have to give up on something, which details/features can you do without?
- Can do without:
Technical systems like controlled residential ventilation
- Cannot do without:
Space (except for the kitchen)
Why is the design the way it is now? For example:
Is this a standard design from the planner?
The architect has largely implemented our wishes; the only issue is the living room situation.
What makes it particularly good or bad in your opinion?
Patient, quick to implement, has already gotten to know us well.
No negative points.
Do you notice any other points that might not fit or that we should consider, which we might have overlooked?
In the basement, the room currently labeled as home cinema might possibly be used as one medium- to long-term. For the foreseeable future, it will be a storage room.
R.Hotzenplotz schrieb:
What do you mean by Z?Well, this here:that the middle wall on the upper floor extends further away from the stairs, aligned with the pipe.
R.Hotzenplotz schrieb:
Would a half-turn staircase in a corner of the house maybe be a solution to avoid one or two problems?Different staircase, different floor plan. You can’t have one without the other.R.Hotzenplotz schrieb:
I’m starting to feel that a straight staircase might be more suitable for larger houses than ours. Or am I wrong?Not entirely. I think the hallway should be about one meter longer. Basically, the ratio of the house’s width to depth already defines a clear axis here. The staircase under the ridge beam (or where it would be in a gable roof above this floor plan) is already “right,” and any winding that deviates from this straight run would break that clarity. I would consider saving half of that one meter on the garage side, and the other half along the rest of the length.R.Hotzenplotz schrieb:
Actually 6.40 m (21 feet) between the wall with the TV and the wall in front of the couch. [...] now apparently only 5.69 m (18.7 feet) possibleI can’t follow you here: where does this mysterious frequency come from that demands exactly 6.40 m (21 feet) for your stereo triangle — is that your favorite note in theme music, around which the living room has to be built according to its wavelength?https://www.instagram.com/11antgmxde/
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R.Hotzenplotz22 Jun 2017 02:0211ant schrieb:
Not entirely. In my opinion, the hallway should be one meter longer. [...] I would consider half of that meter by the garage and the other half along the rest of the way as areas where space can be saved again. Unfortunately, I’m having trouble visualizing exactly what you mean. I understood that the staircase would be moved a bit further back, so the staircase on the upper floor would be where the hallway is now, and vice versa. That would mean the building would be one meter longer from the front door to the patio door, or would you see the staircase above the wall where the TV is shown on the ground floor? I can’t imagine that, because then you would be looking at the staircase from the couch.
11ant schrieb:
I don’t follow you here: where does this vague frequency come into play that demands exactly six meters and forty centimeters (6m 40cm / 21 feet) from your stereo triangle—is that your favorite tone in a soundtrack around which the living room must be built based on its wavelength? The surround speakers should be positioned somewhat behind the couch and not right next to it. Otherwise, you end up very close to the TV. We also have a coffee table. The space shouldn’t feel cramped. Our TV has a diagonal screen size of 49".
R.Hotzenplotz schrieb:
So, two doors into the laundry room or just the one from the hallway? I assume you mean two.No, I mean removing the door from the bathroom to the laundry room. The bathroom doesn’t benefit from having multiple exits.
Regarding the office: I don’t know how people behave where you are, but here nobody stares. No one stops to look directly into the windows. People are usually preoccupied with their own matters. Maybe one in a hundred is curious, but whether anything is visible at all is questionable. If so, only when the light is on in the dark. Even then, a person sitting at a desk is probably not very interesting.
Of course, it also depends on the type of street in front of the property (the audience) and what lies between the house/windows and the street. Usually, there are some bushes or trees planted here and there, which are far more interesting than someone sitting in a room every day. Or perhaps a small privacy hedge? Or do you sit there naked? In that case, I’d reconsider.
For me, the private everyday life between the kitchen and terrace feels more important—and worth protecting.
Best regards,
Yvonne
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R.Hotzenplotz22 Jun 2017 02:26Good points, Yvonne. I understand that the kitchen/terrace is more important. But why more worth protecting?
R.Hotzenplotz schrieb:
Good points, Yvonne. I understand the kitchen/terrace is more important. But why more worth protecting?If someone happens to give a strange look, then privacy is more worth protecting—family life takes priority over office work.
Regards, Yvonne
R.Hotzenplotz schrieb:
Our TV has a diagonal of 49".Made my day! For your TV, a viewing distance of about 3 meters (10 feet) is recommended; any closer, and you almost need opera glasses.
Since you’re planning to set up a home cinema room in the basement, I would suggest shifting your focus away from the surround sound system in the living room. How many percent of the movies you watch actually have significant effects coming from the rear speakers?
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