ᐅ Preliminary floor plan design for a 220 m² single-family house
Created on: 20 Jun 2017 22:41
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R.Hotzenplotz
Hello!
We have already gone through several plans with our architect and I think we are almost there, about to start the detailed planning phase. Before that, I’m looking forward to getting feedback from other users.
Development plan/restrictions: §34 – two full stories
Plot size: 1,085m² (1,1679 yd²)
Basement, floors – 2 full stories plus partial basement
Number of people, ages – 3 people (37, 34, 1, second child planned)
Space requirements on ground floor and upper floor – the requirement was that bedrooms and the study should be about 17m² (183 ft²) each; the entire house should be approximately 220m² (2,368 ft²)
Office: family use
Guests per year: 1
Open or closed architecture: closed
Traditional or modern design: modern
Open kitchen, kitchen island – no open kitchen, but yes to a kitchen island
Number of dining seats – 6
Fireplace – yes
Music/stereo wall – TV wall
Balcony, roof terrace – balcony
Garage, carport – large garage
Additional wishes/special features/daily routines, preferably with reasons why certain things should or should not be included – everyone should be able to sleep as undisturbed as possible in their bedrooms, even if other family members are awake. The husband is sometimes up as early as 4 a.m. Otherwise, watching TV in the evening should be possible without disturbing those sleeping upstairs.
House design
Who created the design:
- Architect (freelancer for a general contractor)
What do you like most? Why?
The upper floor with well-sized rooms and the location of the rooms exactly where they should be (only the washroom area we would still like to move to the outer right corner so that you don’t have to pass it every time you use the toilet). On the ground floor, the access through an airlock, the kitchen, and the dining area with the study next to it are especially liked.
Also appreciated is that after adjustments, the study now faces the garden instead of the street.
What don’t you like? Why?
We originally wanted the distance from wall to wall where the sofa and TV stand is to be about 6.40m (21 ft) (large screen & surround system), but so far only 5.69m (19 ft) has been realized.
Laundry room as described.
Kitchen larger in square meters than needed; the approx. 3m² (32 ft²) could theoretically be used well in the living area.
Price estimate according to architect/planner:
720,000 euros (including construction incidentals)
Personal price limit for the house, including equipment:
800,000 euros
Preferred heating technology:
Gas
If you have to give up on something, which details/features can you do without?
- Can do without:
Technical systems like controlled residential ventilation
- Cannot do without:
Space (except for the kitchen)
Why is the design the way it is now? For example:
Is this a standard design from the planner?
The architect has largely implemented our wishes; the only issue is the living room situation.
What makes it particularly good or bad in your opinion?
Patient, quick to implement, has already gotten to know us well.
No negative points.
Do you notice any other points that might not fit or that we should consider, which we might have overlooked?
In the basement, the room currently labeled as home cinema might possibly be used as one medium- to long-term. For the foreseeable future, it will be a storage room.
We have already gone through several plans with our architect and I think we are almost there, about to start the detailed planning phase. Before that, I’m looking forward to getting feedback from other users.
Development plan/restrictions: §34 – two full stories
Plot size: 1,085m² (1,1679 yd²)
Basement, floors – 2 full stories plus partial basement
Number of people, ages – 3 people (37, 34, 1, second child planned)
Space requirements on ground floor and upper floor – the requirement was that bedrooms and the study should be about 17m² (183 ft²) each; the entire house should be approximately 220m² (2,368 ft²)
Office: family use
Guests per year: 1
Open or closed architecture: closed
Traditional or modern design: modern
Open kitchen, kitchen island – no open kitchen, but yes to a kitchen island
Number of dining seats – 6
Fireplace – yes
Music/stereo wall – TV wall
Balcony, roof terrace – balcony
Garage, carport – large garage
Additional wishes/special features/daily routines, preferably with reasons why certain things should or should not be included – everyone should be able to sleep as undisturbed as possible in their bedrooms, even if other family members are awake. The husband is sometimes up as early as 4 a.m. Otherwise, watching TV in the evening should be possible without disturbing those sleeping upstairs.
House design
Who created the design:
- Architect (freelancer for a general contractor)
What do you like most? Why?
The upper floor with well-sized rooms and the location of the rooms exactly where they should be (only the washroom area we would still like to move to the outer right corner so that you don’t have to pass it every time you use the toilet). On the ground floor, the access through an airlock, the kitchen, and the dining area with the study next to it are especially liked.
Also appreciated is that after adjustments, the study now faces the garden instead of the street.
What don’t you like? Why?
We originally wanted the distance from wall to wall where the sofa and TV stand is to be about 6.40m (21 ft) (large screen & surround system), but so far only 5.69m (19 ft) has been realized.
Laundry room as described.
Kitchen larger in square meters than needed; the approx. 3m² (32 ft²) could theoretically be used well in the living area.
Price estimate according to architect/planner:
720,000 euros (including construction incidentals)
Personal price limit for the house, including equipment:
800,000 euros
Preferred heating technology:
Gas
If you have to give up on something, which details/features can you do without?
- Can do without:
Technical systems like controlled residential ventilation
- Cannot do without:
Space (except for the kitchen)
Why is the design the way it is now? For example:
Is this a standard design from the planner?
The architect has largely implemented our wishes; the only issue is the living room situation.
What makes it particularly good or bad in your opinion?
Patient, quick to implement, has already gotten to know us well.
No negative points.
Do you notice any other points that might not fit or that we should consider, which we might have overlooked?
In the basement, the room currently labeled as home cinema might possibly be used as one medium- to long-term. For the foreseeable future, it will be a storage room.
I actually overlooked the pipe—I was always looking for something larger. Oops:
Have a talk with your planner. I still don’t see how, for example, the hallway in the existing building structure could be made wider without sacrificing space in the master bedroom or the children’s room.
Anyway, keeping my fingers crossed that you find something suitable soon!
Have a talk with your planner. I still don’t see how, for example, the hallway in the existing building structure could be made wider without sacrificing space in the master bedroom or the children’s room.
Anyway, keeping my fingers crossed that you find something suitable soon!
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R.Hotzenplotz22 Jun 2017 00:37This is how it looked with the home office facing the street. The kitchen and living area are arranged more logically here. However, if you spend a lot of time in the home office, you’d rather look out onto the garden than at people passing by (who, in turn, can also look inside when you’re sitting there).
R.Hotzenplotz schrieb:
Somehow, I feel the staircase is a challenge for many of these points. If the staircase were placed on the other hallway side upstairs (which I think would be better for the upper floor), it would be located on the living room side of the central wall on the ground floor. This "Z" shape in the section is tricky; even small changes can be difficult there.
R.Hotzenplotz schrieb:
- with a possible different staircase solution, the house might be a bit shorter It seems the house could handle an extra meter (about 3 feet) in width: half before and half behind the staircase.
Have you followed the link from my post #4? I find the similarities really well suited for taking inspiration.
https://www.instagram.com/11antgmxde/
https://www.linkedin.com/company/bauen-jetzt/
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R.Hotzenplotz22 Jun 2017 01:0911ant schrieb:
If you place the staircase on the other side of the hallway upstairs (which I think would be better for the upper floor), it would be located by the living room side of the central wall on the ground floor. This "Z" shape in the section is quite tricky; especially small changes become difficult there.What do you mean by "Z"?
Putting the staircase on the other side of the hallway upstairs would indeed be a good solution for the upper floor.
However, downstairs I think it could be a problem. Because of our large TV and surround sound speakers, which are supposed to be positioned behind the couch, we actually wanted about 6.40 m (21 feet) distance from the wall where the TV is to the wall in front of the couch. We currently have 6.20 m (20 feet) in our rented apartment. I am quite surprised that in a 220 m² (2,368 sq ft) house only 5.69 m (18.7 feet) seem possible. And I don’t really see much room for adjustment. Having the staircase on the living room side would worsen the problem and reduce space for living room cabinets and furniture. Also, I’m not sure whether it’s really nice to constantly look at the staircase from the couch or dining table.
11ant schrieb:
It seems to me the house could handle an extra meter in width: half of it in front and half behind the staircase.No question. But 220 m² (2,368 sq ft) is our limit. We have to give it our all financially. More is not possible. Because the finishes also need to be high quality. An extra 10 m² (108 sq ft) won’t help if I can no longer afford good technology or proper flooring later. And for four people this space simply has to be enough.
11ant schrieb:
Have you followed the link from my post #4? I really think the similarities are very useful for inspiration.That house has almost 100 m² (1,076 sq ft) more living area. Such a living room would of course be great. But I can’t find any way to apply that to our situation. I do like it, no question.
I can ask the architect for exact additional measurements again and then we’ll see. Significant enlargements are not an option.
Would a half-turn staircase placed in a corner of the house perhaps be a solution to avoid some of the problems? But I’m reluctant to start over with that idea unless there are very good chances of success. I’m slowly getting the feeling that a straight staircase like this is more suitable for bigger houses than for ours. Or am I wrong?
ypg schrieb:
I think that’s better.Would you be willing to give up having privacy at your workspace? I find it awful when people can look in on me. In the kitchen it’s still okay. But where I work at the desk? I really don’t like that. As logical as that option is just from a floor plan perspective.
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R.Hotzenplotz22 Jun 2017 01:29ypg schrieb:
I think that’s better.So, two doors to the laundry room or only one door from the hallway? I assume you mean two.
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