We have reserved a plot and are still looking for the right floor plan. Technically, everything is possible, meaning a townhouse, one-and-a-half storeys, or even a bungalow. The plot is almost square and 600 sqm (6,458 sq ft) in size. It faces south-southwest. We need 2 children’s bedrooms (preferably on the south side), a master bedroom, a bathroom upstairs and downstairs, a living/dining/kitchen area that is as open as possible, a guest toilet, and a utility room (possibly 6–7 sqm (65–75 sq ft)). Both floors will of course be connected by a staircase. No basement, no finished attic, a very large double garage separate from but not directly attached to the house. We are thinking of around 130 sqm (1,400 sq ft) in total.
These are basically standard requirements, and the orientation with almost due south, plus the relatively large, square plot, should all make it easy to choose a very standard floor plan, right? But apparently, this is not possible, at least not with about 130 sqm (1,400 sq ft)?
In all the plans we have seen, something here or there doesn’t fit, or there is one big problem: The staircase to the upper floor is immediately at the entrance, placing it in the "dirt zone." Does anyone know of an absolutely standard floor plan, perhaps from a builder, self-built, or from friends or family, that is really good? Or is EVERY floor plan more or less a compromise, even when the requirements and the situation (plot, orientation, everything can be built) are actually so simple?
These are basically standard requirements, and the orientation with almost due south, plus the relatively large, square plot, should all make it easy to choose a very standard floor plan, right? But apparently, this is not possible, at least not with about 130 sqm (1,400 sq ft)?
In all the plans we have seen, something here or there doesn’t fit, or there is one big problem: The staircase to the upper floor is immediately at the entrance, placing it in the "dirt zone." Does anyone know of an absolutely standard floor plan, perhaps from a builder, self-built, or from friends or family, that is really good? Or is EVERY floor plan more or less a compromise, even when the requirements and the situation (plot, orientation, everything can be built) are actually so simple?
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Bauexperte22 Jun 2015 10:12Lexmaul79 schrieb:
Why don’t you just have someone who knows what they’re doing plan it? This will never work otherwise... I just read through the "discussion" in the green forum (well, not all of it) and I’d like to respond that he/she believes they can do better than the professionals. Alternatively, they’re more likely to hold on to every cent than to invest sensibly in the project.
Best regards, Bauexperte
I played around with the design a bit anyway..
I can’t really say if the technical setup will work as planned. Alternatively, you could possibly place the washer and dryer under the stairs and add a storage shelf in the upper corner, with the technical equipment positioned in the lower left.
The utility room is now intended as general storage, technical room, workshop, and laundry area. The window on the right side could possibly also serve as an exit, and be shifted further up if the technical equipment needs to be placed in the lower right. This exit would allow hanging laundry outside immediately.
The hallway has enough storage space for all coats and shoes, and the guest toilet also includes convenient storage.
Under the stairs there’s space for a kind of mini pantry, beverage crates, long-life food supplies, as well as the vacuum cleaner and mop.
Upstairs, the niche behind the stairs is planned for a large walk-in shower. The toilet is located above the entrance hallway... but I think there might be a way to manage the toilet waste pipe here, possibly by reinforcing the ceiling (living room ceiling span, statics).
The kitchen is quite open now, and I prefer a sink/work island. However, you can swap the sink and cooktop locations. All tall cabinets are along the bottom of the plan, which keeps the room open. A glass sliding door could be installed to separate the kitchen from the hallway.
There is direct access to the terrace next to the kitchen, but also from the living area, which includes a small computer corner on the far right.
The upstairs hallway is quite dark... either a skylight above the stairs or motion sensor-controlled lighting would ensure it’s always automatically lit when going up or down.
The ground floor is about 65 square meters (700 sq ft) and the upper floor about 63 square meters (678 sq ft).
I can’t really say if the technical setup will work as planned. Alternatively, you could possibly place the washer and dryer under the stairs and add a storage shelf in the upper corner, with the technical equipment positioned in the lower left.
The utility room is now intended as general storage, technical room, workshop, and laundry area. The window on the right side could possibly also serve as an exit, and be shifted further up if the technical equipment needs to be placed in the lower right. This exit would allow hanging laundry outside immediately.
The hallway has enough storage space for all coats and shoes, and the guest toilet also includes convenient storage.
Under the stairs there’s space for a kind of mini pantry, beverage crates, long-life food supplies, as well as the vacuum cleaner and mop.
Upstairs, the niche behind the stairs is planned for a large walk-in shower. The toilet is located above the entrance hallway... but I think there might be a way to manage the toilet waste pipe here, possibly by reinforcing the ceiling (living room ceiling span, statics).
The kitchen is quite open now, and I prefer a sink/work island. However, you can swap the sink and cooktop locations. All tall cabinets are along the bottom of the plan, which keeps the room open. A glass sliding door could be installed to separate the kitchen from the hallway.
There is direct access to the terrace next to the kitchen, but also from the living area, which includes a small computer corner on the far right.
The upstairs hallway is quite dark... either a skylight above the stairs or motion sensor-controlled lighting would ensure it’s always automatically lit when going up or down.
The ground floor is about 65 square meters (700 sq ft) and the upper floor about 63 square meters (678 sq ft).
In the "green forum," I was already told that 130 square meters (1400 square feet) and a square layout don’t fit well together, and that seems to be true. So now we’re considering a somewhat wider, but not so long design. It doesn’t have to be square, nor a city villa, and the 130 square meters (1400 square feet) isn’t set in stone. I think with such strict conditions, you don’t get very far. Our current idea is a wide floor plan where the kitchen, dining area, and living room are aligned side by side on the south-southwest side. The kitchen doesn’t extend all the way to the front of the house; instead, there is a utility room and a toilet at the front. The living area on the other side, however, runs continuously. The ground floor overall resembles the design from a certain Polish prefab house provider (let’s say 140 A2, without naming the manufacturer or linking to anything—however, utility room and toilet on the left, large continuous living area on the right, and some kind of separation between the hall and dining area).
kbt09: Hexagonal rooms are apparently frowned upon in architectural circles, as far as I have learned. The niches behind the stairs are hardly usable. Even if you could use one upstairs as a shower, I imagine such a narrow niche to be somewhat uncomfortable. But thank you very, very much for your ideas.
kbt09: Hexagonal rooms are apparently frowned upon in architectural circles, as far as I have learned. The niches behind the stairs are hardly usable. Even if you could use one upstairs as a shower, I imagine such a narrow niche to be somewhat uncomfortable. But thank you very, very much for your ideas.
Hmm, I don’t really like the mentioned house, for example (EDIT: Saying I don’t like it at all is incorrect, I do like the kitchen layout, for example)… it has about 10 square meters (108 square feet) more built-up area, but on the upper floor there is a lot of unused space and the sloping roof areas. When I look further at the upper floor and try to orient the children’s bedrooms toward the south, it becomes difficult. And if the children’s rooms are oriented south, they would only have narrow windows facing that direction. The floor plan would need a lot of revisions.
I can only recommend that you actually consult an architect.
I can only recommend that you actually consult an architect.
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